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How autonomous vehicles will change our mindset

Dutchie

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Interesting discussion. “Why do pedestrians don’t jaywalk - because there might be a driver out there who is crazy and doesn’t watch out” In a world where there are only autonomous cars everyone would jaywalking heck pedestrians would not even watch out because they know that autonomous cars would stop anyway. ‘The most profound change is not for the autonomous cars but for other member in traffic.”

 

diplomat33

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Aug 3, 2017
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Interesting discussion. “Why do pedestrians don’t jaywalk - because there might be a driver out there who is crazy and doesn’t watch out” In a world where there are only autonomous cars everyone would jaywalking heck pedestrians would not even watch out because they know that autonomous cars would stop anyway. ‘The most profound change is not for the autonomous cars but for other member in traffic.”


I am not sure I agree that pedestrians don't jaywalk because they know human drivers might run them over. Certainly, most humans know not to cross the street in front of traffic. We teach young children to look both ways before crossing a street. But in big cities like NYC, where people are in a hurry, they still jay walk all the time despite the risk. And I am pretty sure human drivers are still legally expected not to hit jay walkers. However, it is true that people would probably jay walk more with AVs if they knew that AVs were incapable of hitting them.

Obviously, we don't want AVs to be completely paralyzed in the middle of the road at the mere sight of a pedestrian or cyclist. But AVs should be safe around vulnerable road users. They should never hit them. If AVs reduce the number of pedestrians or cyclists hit or killed by cars, that's a good thing. I don't like the idea that AVs should be made less safe just because humans could take advantage of them. The solution is not to make AVs be dicks on the road. The solution is to punish humans who jay walk or purposely block traffic.
 
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Microterf

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I am not sure I agree that pedestrians don't jaywalk because they know human drivers might run them over. Certainly, most humans know not to cross the street in front of traffic. We teach young children to look both ways before crossing a street. But in big cities like NYC, where people are in a hurry, they still jay walk all the time despite the risk. And I am pretty sure human drivers are still legally expected not to hit jay walkers. However, it is true that people would probably jay walk more with AVs if they knew that AVs were incapable of hitting them.

Obviously, we don't want AVs to be completely paralyzed in the middle of the road at the mere sight of a pedestrian or cyclist. But AVs should be safe around vulnerable road users. They should never hit them. If AVs reduce the number of pedestrians or cyclists hit or killed by cars, that's a good thing. I don't like the idea that AVs should be made less safe just because humans could take advantage of them. The solution is not to make AVs be dicks on the road. The solution is to punish humans who jay walk or purposely block traffic.
Maybe the traffic cops instead of being laid off will transition into pedestrian police.
 
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