davidc18
Active Member
I have to agree that taking away information currently available in the IC will, in my opinion, damage my vehicle.
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I've posted plenty of times in the other thread as well. While I understand the argument for waiting until the software is actually released to complain, I also understand how slow Tesla can be to make changes to software that has been released. I think our best chances for keeping the parts of the current UI that we need, like the combined speedometer / power meter, lie in making sure Tesla knows how disappointed we will be if they take it away from us.
I agree that information that has been made available should not be taken away in future updates.
Agreed. Dumbing down the interface is a bad plan (It's far worse than that, but this is a family forum). It's one reason why the post 2G Prius wasn't even on the long list.I definitely do not want most of the current display to change in fundamental information-presenting way(s). What I've seen of v7 makes the dash far worse and I "need" the current power meter for range on trips, and general driving.
Thread topic/title is: How best to contact Tesla about unacceptable changes in V7 dashboard
Might I suggest a group letter addressed and sent registered mail to Elon Musk? :biggrin:
You're right. I probably should have posted on the Beta v7 Thread...
Get over the UI. Do you have control over your iPhone UI? No. How about the alarm system at home? Or thermostat? Solar inverter controller?
Get over the UI... If you purchased a BMW, Mercedes or Audi, would you be equally as vocal about the UI. Those cars have stationary gauges, dials and knobs.
And the Tesla icon in the center that indicates various functions and alerts? Many other cars use this icon. Nissan for one. It's becoming very popular.
While we're on the discussion of UI, did you ever notice that both displays indicate the temp outside? Kind of a waste, don't you think?
I suggest that one wait until V7 is in general release and people have used it for at least a few days before sending such a letter.Might I suggest a group letter addressed and sent registered mail to Elon Musk? :biggrin:
It may be too late then. If I let them change it, will they revert it back if I ask them to? I suspect not...
I suggest that one wait until V7 is in general release and people have used it for at least a few days before sending such a letter.
At the moment it's looking like I'm going to have to simply refuse software updates -- permanently. With my February 2013 Model S, I don't need or want any of the new features in v.7, and I can't even use most of them, but the current betas dramatically damage the dashboard display by:
(1) removing the front-and-center instantaneous power meter with power-limit and regen-limit lines, which I use routinely (valuable for careful handling in bad conditions, and for monitoring how much of a 'lead foot' I have). Incidentally the power-over-last-50-miles graph is completely useless to me due to the hills here -- the data runs off the top and bottom all the time -- so I certainly don't want to put that on the dashboard.
(2) removing the digital clock with date, which I use routinely (embarassingly, I never know what the day of the week or the date is)
(3) removing the digit after the decimal point on the trip meters, which I use routinely for watching energy up and down the hills
(4) removing the always-on odometer display, which I use routinely (people ask all the time how many miles are on the car)
(5) removing the outside temperature display, which I use routinely
while adding absolutely nothing of any value for me.
Unless these things are rectified, I would consider this update to be damage to my vehicle. I'd expect to be compensated handsomely if it were forced on me -- but it's simpler to simply refuse to update it.
Unfortunately, I"ve read things about Tesla Service Centers refusing to service cars without applying the software updates. So it's not clear whether I'll be able to get service from Tesla at all if they insist on damaging my car during annual service.
I have no idea how best to reach Tesla. It seems like these are stupid mistakes on their part which would be easy to fix, a matter of mere hours of work. The power meter should be an available option for the center display (selectable in the 17" touchscreen under "settings"). The "status line" information should be an available option, in the same way. Problem fixed.
But how to reach Tesla to express how serious this is? You *do not remove functionality from a car which the customer has purchased*. Ever.