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How can I tell if I got Ultra High Fidelity Sound?

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by Ulmo, Dec 15, 2016.

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  1. Ulmo

    Ulmo Active Member

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    I ordered Ultra High Fidelity Sound, but I only hear 4 low quality speakers, and that is even more evident panning around to them. The sound says 12 speakers. Where are they? When do they come on? How can I confirm that I have them? How can I activate the Ultra High Fidelity Sound in my car?

    I am very baffled. I've never heard my classical music sound this bad in any non-cheap car. It's as if they didn't even install the Ultra High Fidelity Sound option, even though it's listed in my delivery papers.
     
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    Does XM radio show up on your screen? It it does you have it.
     
  3. Ulmo

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    No.

    However, I thought of the same test, but it says XM requires the pano roof, and I don't have pano roof.
     
  4. EVCarGUy

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    Does the volume go to 10 or 11? If 11, you have the Ultra sound system.
     
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    I believe the UHF had a speaker in the hatchback on the passenger side.

    In a non-uhf car, both sides look symmetrical. The uhf car has a lump in the passenger side.
     
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    Unfortuntely we can't tell by the sound, so instead we hunt around the car and count the speakers. o_O
     
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  7. Blu Zap

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    @brkaus is on to it. The key way to tell is to look into the trunk. Note to the left there is an open compartment. That is usually where the charging cable bag is kept. On the opposite side, if it is enclosed and you cannot access that space, that is the woofer for the UHF. If it is an open compartment you can put stuff in, then no UHF.
     
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    Also on the equalizer page, if you have surround sound at the bottom, you have it.
     
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  9. DarkMatter

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    Do you have the 'surround' option turned on? I believe it's on by default and it sounds dreadful. During my test drive I thought the UHFS was a no-go until I turned that option off. After turning it off the thing sounded so good I considered it a must-have.
     
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    This. Surround seriously deteriorates sound quality
     
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    thecloud As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive

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    #11 thecloud, Dec 15, 2016
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    While that may have been the case in the past, it actually sounds much better now in 8.0. (Tesla fixed some issue with the sound codec toward the end of the 7.1 releases.) If you haven't tried Dolby Surround in a while and you are on 8.0, you might want to give it another shot.

    It's important to realize that Surround treats your rear speakers as satellites, in order to produce a sound stage that's mostly in the front of the car, with some sound appearing to reflect from behind you. You can pull this sound stage back slightly with the slider controls in the equalizer pane. Most people are disappointed because they expect the volume level to be identical in the front and rear speakers, and that's not how Surround works.

    In any case, try flipping Surround on and off to compare, and see which sounds better to you.
     
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  12. Akikiki

    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    You are correct. The subwoofer takes up space on the right side and when you open the footwell and look inside and to the right. As you open the lift gate, it looks like a squared box sitting inside the trunk well. And if you open the footwall where the kids feet go, the subwoofer extends down into it and takes up space there too.
     
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    I have this same question but in a Model X. I got an inventory car with the sound package included. It doesn't sound any better than my two year old Model S with basic stereo.

    I show the surround option but no XM. Is XM supposed to be present in a Model X with sound upgrade?
     
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    #14 Ulmo, Dec 16, 2016
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    Thank you so much! My volume goes to 11, and there's a lump on the right side of the trunk. After work I'll open it up and see what's there if I have time.

    I was almost hoping that they just neglected to install it, and they had to just put in a piece or two to get it working.

    I tried the Dolby Surround, and absolutely nothing happens either way. I tried this with multiple sources at multiple times per day.

    I'm on firmware "v8.0 (2.46.30)". I suspect something odd with the configuration in some way.

    But, the 4 speakers that are working (out of the ordered 12 + woofer) sound tinny and cheap, so perhaps there's something intrinsically wrong with the system, or perhaps there are actually inferior speakers installed in my car.

    So far, I've found 5 speakers:
    • Two symmetrical on the front columns where it meets the dash
    • Two symmetrical rear doors at the bottom of the doors under the handles
    • The lump in the right of trunk. I have not yet confirmed sound out of this woofer.
    Ok, I've heard enough from KDFC to know that I think this sound is "messy" without any of the fantastic sounds that classical delivers, the same as if I were listening to a compressed audio stream (which I never do). Is there compression being added that I do not know of? I turned off "HD Radio", of course.
     
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    There might be an issue with the amp that powers the hi-fi speakers, or the connection feeding it. Relatively easy fix/swap (compared to not actually having the extra speakers LOL).
    Interesting video:
    premium amp
     
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  16. bak_phy

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    Often speakers don't sound very good until they have been broken in. I don't really remember that being the case with my X though.
     
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    Mention it to service. If some of the speakers are not working I would suspect the amplifier.
     
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    @Ulmo - timely thread. Was mulling over starting one along the lines of "getting the most out of the UHFS system".

    Still doing my homework on that thread but everything I have read suggests the sound input is critical. Bluetooth, Slacker, and other low bandwidth sources lack the detail to allow the sound system to shine. Conversely, lossless audio files on a USB (e.g. FLAC) seem to let the system shine.

    Moreover, Tesla (still?) lacks a good codec to smooth out the audio distortions on low quaility audio inputs. Thus if you're using your iphone to play music via bluetooth the UHFS sound system dutifully reproduces the sound - including the distortions from the low quaility source - meaning it sounds worse.

    Suggest you grab a high copy of your audio files (think FLAC), put them on a USB drive, plug the USB drive directly into the car and see if that sounds any better.
     
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    #19 Ulmo, Dec 16, 2016
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    That might be consistent with the one thing that didn't make sense: that previously high quality FM reproductions are getting massacred now.

    I already bought a USB drive for my car months ago in anticipation, and now that I'm home for the first time since picking it up, I'll get to work making directory trees and stuff to put my music into. I'll have an answer within a few days.
    I already have a service appointment to cover this. Inputs that I considered OK in other vehicles cause extreme choppiness (extreme clipping) in my Tesla; I do suspect something faulty or mismatched (wrong item?). The service center that is otherwise best for me (I think) is small and very booked up, so I won't even take it in until 3 weeks from now. Meanwhile, I'm going to try to learn about noninvasive testing (location of speakers, ways to measure output).
    Once again, great information, and all of this is making me more optimistic. I am concerned that I experienced fogging above and wet floor mat below that area (which I told the service center about and is on the list for repair). The problem could be as simple as a hole allowing rain water into the amp, which fried it. I wonder how much other water damage the factory might have caused with such an error. I literally took it to service first chance I got; I will have to discuss this again before the 3 week appointment to see if I ought to do a particular action to avoid damage or violation of warranty.
     
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    +1
    I just took delivery of a model S this week that has the premium sound
    I toggled surround on/off and felt off was much cleaner
    My son came over and I had him listen to a blind a/b test
    He too liked the surround off
     

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