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How common is ghosting?

Discussion in 'Model X' started by Yggdrasill, Jun 11, 2017.

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How is the ghosting in your Model X?

  1. Very noticeable both day and night

    17 vote(s)
    8.9%
  2. Noticeable both day and night

    11 vote(s)
    5.7%
  3. Somewhat noticeable during the day, more noticeable at night

    28 vote(s)
    14.6%
  4. Noticeable at night

    40 vote(s)
    20.8%
  5. Somewhat noticeable at night

    15 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Not noticeable

    77 vote(s)
    40.1%
  7. Other

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    2.1%
  1. hill

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    This more detailed version may make it easier - at least it does for me;

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    hint - the old lady's lips are the young lady's necklace.
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  2. moscard

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    I received my Model X 100D, 2 weeks ago, probably produuced in april.
    I stiil have ghosting, especially at night.
     
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  3. vandacca

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    I agree that polarized glasses will help with ghosting, but that only works during the day when ghosting is not very noticeable.

    You can't use polarized sunglasses at night when the contrast is much higher and therefore ghosting is more noticeable.
     
  4. Yggdrasill

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    It's quite noticeable during the day too, but I agree it doesn't fully resolve the issue. I still haven't had an opportunity to drive much when it's dark. During summer, it isn't dark very long at night this far north.
     
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    Peteybabes redneck drivin' a tesla...

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    @vandacca & @Yggdrasill what about the yellow lenses used for night time driving, perhaps that would help?
     
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    Most of those "yellow lens" glasses on Amazon are falsely advertised as being "polarized". They are not polarized, so they will not help with ghosting.

    There are some theories that having yellow lenses improves contrast, but I'm not sure if that has been scientifically proven and even if it does, it may make ghosting more noticeable.

    The only thing I've heard on this forum that seems to help with ghosting is tinting the windshield.
     
  7. verygreen

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    What's your windshield part number? (in the lower left corner when you look from outside)
     
  8. Peteybabes

    Peteybabes redneck drivin' a tesla...

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    Sure i would hardly expect them to be polarized, but i guess that's what's needed to remove ghosting, (something i don't notice or see).

    however, they do improve contrast. i would suggest grabbing a cheap pair from an outdoors store from the shooting/gun section or amazon probably $5 or less and it actually works pretty good, although some may think you look dorky. :D
     
  9. moscard

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    I found two figures on windshield : 103438501H & 43R014858
     
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  11. Yggdrasill

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    I drove some more with the sunglasses today, and I'm more sure in my assessment. My polarized sunglasses eliminate the ghosting like 95%. If I pay *really* close attention in the right situations, I can still see a slight hint of ghosting, but that's okay.

    When I think about it, polarized glasses are really nice in other ways too. It just occurred to me that the reason I suddenly could see people inside other cars is that the reflected light of the sky was gone. Also I didn't see the reflections off the upper dash. Awesome.

    With polarized glasses, the colours on my iphone are really crazy though; purple, green, etc. Luckily (well, I guess, by design) the screens in the Tesla are still crystal clear.

    Maybe it's possible to get clear glasses with polarized film. I will have to investigate. :D
     
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  12. MasterT

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    That's how polarizing glasses work. A good way to check if glasses are actually polarized is by tilting your head while wearing the glasses and look at LCD - try that with Tesla, and you'll see that monitor will appear dim and even black. Polarized glasses also would prevent HUD from working as HUD is based on reflection which polarization blocks.
     
  13. verygreen

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    1034385-01-H is what I have as well and there is ghosting.
    There's apparently a new part number that has no reported ghosting 1105964-00-B, at least with the sample size we have ;)
    So I was hoping to get more people with that one.
     
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  14. verygreen

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    Well, not exactly like that.
    Polarizing glasses block about half the light due to wrong polarization. Typical reflections (except from shiny metals and sch) are only polarized one way so that's how when using a polarizing filter on a camera you rotate it to remove unwanted reflections. Also LCDs do a similar trick I think.
    Anyway if you believe the polarizing glasses you have remove ghosting, then try to put them sideways and see if ghosting is really back.
    If it's not, that means the ghosting removal is for some other reason unrelated to polarization.
     
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  15. moscard

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    That does not help me but nice to know ;)
     
  16. Yggdrasill

    Yggdrasill Active Member

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    I also have 1034385-01-H.
     
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  17. DarrenK

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    Just got my x100D delivered (sort of...dropped at a truck stop, I kid you not...) and I specifically looked at the part # after reading this thread today. I have the B, which looks like the new windshield. I will report back when I have a chance to drive it at night to see if it had ghosting. The loaner I had definitely did but it had an H windshield.
     
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  18. AnxietyRanger

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    Let's hope the new B windshield is an improvement. At least the new part number is promising.
     
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  19. BMWtoo

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    Took delivery on July 3rd. I was worried reading the forum but haven't noticed any.
     
  20. verygreen

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    what's your part number in the lower left corner?
     
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