How did someone unplug me (Tesla plug)?

[Krazaak]

It was charged to the limit, but not to 100%. After I released the button, the port went green again and I got notifications that it started charging and immediately that it had finished. I tried to remove it a second time with the same results.

2017.28.4 cf 44833

 

[Nerdy_Engineer]

I just tested with my mobile charger, and it would not unlock the charger even though my car was fully charged. I have AP1, firmware 17.26.76.

 

[animorph]

Walking out to the garage just now without my fob (car still locked, HPWC connected), pressing the HPWC button turned the port from green to dark blue but did not unlock the port. Probably finished charging about 12:30 AM this morning.

I'm on 2017.28 c528869

 

[qadaemon]

Bizzare. Mine's fully charged at 90% and locked. Still lets the HPWC go after a few seconds. 2017.28.4 cf44833

 

[qadaemon]

Bizzare. Mine's fully charged at 90% and locked. Still lets the HPWC go after a few seconds. 2017.28.4 cf44833

Thinking about it for a few minutes, I've only used this trick at my house, the Atlanta supercharger, and the Indianapolis fashion mall showroom parking; I wonder if the charger firmware or hardware version makes a difference?

 

[BerTX]

Thinking about it for a few minutes, I've only used this trick at my house, the Atlanta supercharger, and the Indianapolis fashion mall showroom parking; I wonder if the charger firmware or hardware version makes a difference?

I'm confused. How were you at the SC or the mall without your fob? Did I miss something?

 

[AnxietyRanger]

Bizzare. Mine's fully charged at 90% and locked. Still lets the HPWC go after a few seconds. 2017.28.4 cf44833

I'm thinking you missed the point: is locked and remains locked when no fob is present (i.e. when an outsider tries to unplug you when you are not present).

I assume you have had a fob with you in those examples?

 

[ReddyLeaf]

If my charge was going to complete at 3am, I'd try and wake up as early as possible 5 or 6am) to give someone else the opportunity to charge. I've been on the other end too many times where I've arrived at a destination charging location only to find that the car charging has been there for the past 12 hours.

You sir are a saint. We could have used you in Custer, SD. Three Teslas and two stations. We pre-agreed on a schedule that had the two 90Ds charging overnight, but they would leave early, one even said 5am. We, in the lowly 70D, needed the charge more, but I did some quick calculations and figured I'd only need two hours to get to Gillette, which I could get after 7am and during BF, and a quick 1 mi walk to a decent coffee shop. Imagine my surprise, the next day when BOTH 90Ds were still there at 7am. So much for best plans. We drove to coffee first, then returned to the hotel later for BF and a charge. Arrived in Gillette with 10-20 mi, but not difficult since the Leaf is my daily driver. I'm pretty much used to that.

 

[qadaemon]

I'm thinking you missed the point: is locked and remains locked when no fob is present (i.e. when an outsider tries to unplug you when you are not present).

I assume you have had a fob with you in those examples?

Nope, no fob present. If my car is locked and charged, I can take the charger out, but I cannot get inside.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

^ @qadaemon Interesting... UMC too?

 

[NigelM]

FWIW, for some considerable time now (I want to say a couple years) it's been absolutely possible to plug in a locked car. I always check the car last thing at night when I take the dogs out and usually plug in both cars if they're not already connected, I don't remember the last time I needed the key.

 

[qadaemon]

I'm confused. How were you at the SC or the mall without your fob? Did I miss something?

I use it at home to get the cord out of my way when I don't have the fob. I unplugged one of the demo cars at the Indy mall to charge mine (we live a few hours away and the supercharger was inop). At the atl supercharger talking to others while waiting, an older S was fully charged, but the person didn't have the fob because it was with someone else at the restroom or whatever. An X arrived that needed to charge, so we unplugged it the same way I just hold down the button until the light turns white from blue (10-15 seconds?), then click the charger button again and pull it out. Sounds like it doesn't work for others, or firmware has changed it. I'll have to do some more testing.

 

[qadaemon]

^ @qadaemon Interesting... UMC too?

I haven't tried with the UMC in a long time. I'll need to experiment.

 

[qadaemon]

Going to experiment with other cars tomorrow. I set my charge limit lower than current battery state so it was "complete", locked the car, and left the fob inside the house where I know it won't reach. Here's a video of removing the HPWC cable. Anything I'm doing different?

 

[Solarman004]

Going to experiment with other cars tomorrow. I set my charge limit lower than current battery state so it was "complete", locked the car, and left the fob inside the house where I know it won't reach. Here's a video of removing the HPWC cable. Anything I'm doing different?

Very interesting. On my Aug 2016 MX, with the car locked, the solid green light you show in the video would not even be illuminated, let alone being able to release the charging handle. I wonder what the difference is? I like having my charger handle locked, and charge port dark, when the car is locked.

 

[Nerdy_Engineer]

Going to experiment with other cars tomorrow. I set my charge limit lower than current battery state so it was "complete", locked the car, and left the fob inside the house where I know it won't reach. Here's a video of removing the HPWC cable. Anything I'm doing different?

It could just be the video, but it looks like the charger light only turned blue, not white. I can only remove the charger when the light is white.

 

[David29]

It only locks when you depart the car after it has been on. No automatic locking when you subsequently unlock the car and then walk away.

Yikes! never knew this! very surprising behavior.

 

[David29]

I REALLY wish Tesla would add a config option to let you set the horn to chirp whenever it locks itself. Would save all of the above confusion. My last car (Cadillac) had walk-away locking and with the horn chirp option turned on, I would be comforted by the fact that I KNEW it was locked when I heard the chirp as I was walking away with my back to the car (where flashing lights do no good unless you walk away backwards!). If I didn't hear the chirp, I would know to turn around and check to see if I'd left a door ajar or something.

Oy, I hope they don't do this. I think that the "chirping" of car horns as cars are locked is extremely annoying, sometimes startling (when one is close), and downright rude late at night. very glad my Tesla does not add to the noise...

 

[qadaemon]

Very interesting. On my Aug 2016 MX, with the car locked, the solid green light you show in the video would not even be illuminated, let alone being able to release the charging handle. I wonder what the difference is? I like having my charger handle locked, and charge port dark, when the car is locked.

My light stays on for a long time after the car is locked. 1/2 hour maybe? It also lights up when it wakes up to download/upload (correlated with network logs anyway).

 

[qadaemon]

It could just be the video, but it looks like the charger light only turned blue, not white. I can only remove the charger when the light is white.

Must be the video. It's white when you can take it out. The blue is very blue comparatively.