How do you feel about Tesla's 2-5 year prospects in the EV market?

[voyager]

Future EVs: Every Electric Vehicle Coming Soon

These EVs are in various stages from concept to production, and perhaps a few may never see the light of day.

www.caranddriver.com

Having seen and read Car and Driver's overview, I was wondering how Tesla forum writers
feel about Tesla's 2-5 year prospects. Why a time bracket 'that short'? Because developments
are going rapidly now that most carmakers have decided to focus on electric cars.

Think of: overall innovation, feel-fit-finish of the cars, Fahrvergnügen, customer satisfaction,
ease of use, appealing design, price/quality, that sort of things, self-driving.

Why do I mention "threat from outside the car industry"?
Because Foxconn, Huawei, Sony and Apple are perceived as newcomers.

Sorry if I happen to leave out quintessential options in your opinion. Feel free to say so.

 

[voyager]

No interest, evidently.
Could one of the moderators please delete this thread?

 

[CLK350]

Nah - keep it for future reference

 

[BornToFly]

TOTAL DOMINATION

 

[ATPMSD]

Tesla’s biggest threat is their own terrible customer service. If they would just provide real customer oriented service at all levels they would be untouchable!

 

[Tam]

It takes time to catch up to Tesla.

For example Gm Bolt got into battery issues.

Lucid is nice but much more expensive...

Once others will catch up on techs, production, reliability, pricing... we'll be able to see a clearer picture.

 

[voyager]

TOTAL DOMINATION

Sounds ominous...

 

[jeewee3000]

I didn't click the last two since they might not happen within 2-5 years.

But the level 5 thing WILL cause major disruption, when it arrives. Could be sooner, could be later.

 

[voyager]

Ford Market Cap Hits $100 Billion For The First Time Amid EV Push

Ford shares rose 2.2% to $25.02 on Nov. 13 in New York, closing just under $100 billion at the end of the day; the market cap puts Ford ahead of GM and Rivian.

insideevs.com

Wow, 1/10th of Tesla's...

 

[linux-works]

peak tesla has been passed. its all downhill from here.

as one fades, others will rise. (then they will fade, over time). its how life is.

tesla had a reasonable run but their ego is clearly in their way. they show zero signs of changing or fixing that.

always remember: if you stop listening to your customer or think you know better - good luck with that.

 

[voyager]

peak tesla has been passed. its all downhill from here.

as one fades, others will rise. (then they will fade, over time). its how life is.

tesla had a reasonable run but their ego is clearly in their way. they show zero signs of changing or fixing that.

always remember: if you stop listening to your customer or think you know better - good luck with that.

Which of the car brands will rise to the occasion?
Will the Chinese munch a big chunk out of the EV market?

 

[linux-works]

all the new electrics will have the feature set that compares to the lane assist and all that.

beyond the assist features, tesla is no closer to level 5 than they were, well, ever. game is over and 'assist' is all you can expect until some new breakthru (like v2x, but no one seems to take that feedback mechanism seriously). having active roadways would also help; again, a feedback loop is needed in this world of chaos.

so, to get assist features, they all will have it in the next few iterations. and it will get better over time and soon it will be a buyable ecu from bosch (etc) and it wont be in-house anymore.

so, tesla was a shining star and they helped move the car industry forward. but they've ... uh .. ran out of gas, it seems

the next youngster(s) will be happy to pick the ball up and move it forward. and they'll have a few years or a decade and then they'll find the new new kid is leaving THEM behind.

the day of chevy and ford owning the car world - over. it will be 'climb - rise - peak - decline - fade' over and over. will take decades but companies wont be in business for 100 years like they used to. this is way too fast moving of an industry, now, and the rules are entirely changed.

 

[Featsbeyond50]

the day of chevy and ford owning the car world - over. it will be 'climb - rise - peak - decline - fade' over and over. will take decades but companies wont be in business for 100 years like they used to. this is way too fast moving of an industry, now, and the rules are entirely changed.

I don't think the world is churning as fast as you think. Tesla is just getting started and they will rule the world for a long time.

 

[linux-works]

been in too many hw/sw companies to count and seen it time and time again.

rise, peak, hubris, decline.



"believe it if you need it, or leave it if you dare"

 

[voyager]

A vote of confidence, evidently.
Almost 90% say that Tesla will be King of the EV road for the coming 2-5 years.

 

[ATPMSD]

A vote of confidence, evidently.
Almost 90% say that Tesla will be King of the EV road for the coming 2-5 years.

Fifteen hundred years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat. So 90% of the people believe Tesla is King. Just saying…