As an EAP owner (got car in December 2018) I want the new 3.0 hardware. I know it won't change what I have immediately, but it will. I want to help Tesla keep developing the technology. But at what price, after EAP already cost me $5k?
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How many EAP owners would pay for the 3.0 FSD computer at what price?
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ucmndd
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So why didn’t you buy it a couple months ago when it was $2k?
Me personally, I’ve given Tesla more than enough money on future promises, so there aren’t any poll options that apply to me.
C141medic
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Not sure if I understand the poll? Are you asking how much owners with only EAP would pay for FSD? I don’t think you can just get HW 3.0 unless you’ve already purchased FSD or if you have a newer VIN (I believe within the last month or so) with HW 3.0 already installed. But you’d still need to purchase FSD if you want those features. And FSD is a fixed price.
I'm a legacy EAP owner and I will pay exactly $0 for FSD/HW3. I paid $5,800 for EAP and I'll bite my tongue on that... but I do love it and use it all the time.
ibGeek
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As a EAP owner I was assured that I would get the 3.0 hardware for free. Elon also said this during the autonomy day video.
ucmndd
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ibGeek
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Sorry, you're correct. FSD. Either way, I get the new hardware. For EAP, I think 2k is fair. It's freaking awesome.
Helping Tesla by giving them money ?
Are you going to get tax deduction for your gesture of charity ?
Are you going to get tax deduction for your gesture of charity ?
I didn't bite at $2K.
Not willing to pay any price for a pig in a poke.
Once FSD is clearly defined and 100% available, will make the decision.
Not willing to pay any price for a pig in a poke.
Once FSD is clearly defined and 100% available, will make the decision.
timk225
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As I understand it, if you don't have the latest FSD version, or I should say the version that actually is FSD, then you don't need the HW3 computer. It'd be like custom building a gaming quality PC to check your email and watch YouTube.
TiggerTime
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I think Tesla should offer FSD at no more than the price difference from EAP to FSD. The current upgrade price for me says $6000 for FSD. I paid $5000 for EAP so they really should offer the upgrade it in my case for the difference of $1000. This would seem a fair thing for those who already laid out extra money from AP and EAP before all the restructuring they did with it.
Chancellor32
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Already paid 5k for EAP not paying anymore for FSD. Maybe once it comes out and is legit I’ll pay like 2k. No way in hell I pay more than that tho.
I'm sorry I didn't lay out the survey better, it was an impulse post.
If we have EAP, we generally paid $5k for it. Now, to get the 3.0 hardware
we have to buy the FSD upgrade. What that buys is the 3.0 computer and
gradual updates towards street level NOA, i.e. "FSD". If my car was even
part of the way "there" end 2019, I'd be very happy.
I don't really care what level of autonomy will be achieved when, but judging
by the rate of progress to date, I expect to like what's coming next.
I'm pissed I missed the unannounced $2k sale. I don't think the $6k price
is right. But I'd buy it at $3k now.
If a majority of EAP owners is resentful, or isn't willing to spend a penny
more, or doesn't believe any street level NOA is coming soon, then Tesla
has little reason to offer it to us at anything but "list", and that's unfortunate.
If we have EAP, we generally paid $5k for it. Now, to get the 3.0 hardware
we have to buy the FSD upgrade. What that buys is the 3.0 computer and
gradual updates towards street level NOA, i.e. "FSD". If my car was even
part of the way "there" end 2019, I'd be very happy.
I don't really care what level of autonomy will be achieved when, but judging
by the rate of progress to date, I expect to like what's coming next.
I'm pissed I missed the unannounced $2k sale. I don't think the $6k price
is right. But I'd buy it at $3k now.
If a majority of EAP owners is resentful, or isn't willing to spend a penny
more, or doesn't believe any street level NOA is coming soon, then Tesla
has little reason to offer it to us at anything but "list", and that's unfortunate.
Hope for you it will be reasonably priced then.
I took the $2K deal and looking forward to the ride
I don't get it, frankly. You seems angry at what you got for $5.8K?
But you love EAP and use it, yet you do not want the next developments?
Is it that you don't see these next levels as ever adding anything?
In other words you think NOA on city streets doesn't seem achievable?
Is it that you won't believe it until you see it, IOW you'll wait until then?
Or will you always be satisfied enough with highway-only NOA?
Or do you think the 3.0 hardware upgrade should be free ?
Or are you troubled by the term "full self-driving", because you
think cars will never operate autonomously on surface streets?
Again, it's not to diss you. Can you clarify a bit, please?
FWIW, if I didn't believe NOA on city streets at a level better than the
current highway NOA was possible, I'd say I don't care or want it, and
I might say 2.x hardware is adequate, so why bother. But since I think
that 3.0 hardware 1) will make current highway NOA better, AND
2) I believe, based on extrapolation from seeing prototypes do it,
that surface street NOA is coming, for sure, then I'm willing to spend a
reasonable amount now, like $3k, to bring the complete package to ~$8k.
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Thank you for your thoughtful inquiry-
Yes, I enjoy AEP but don't trust it to ever be better than a human. I turn it off now at tricky areas and use it mainly for straight-always and long trips. If you've ever been in an accident- completely blindsided by another car--you (I did anyway) become a very defensive driver. It's hard for me personally to even be a passenger in a car and give up control. I guess I'm a control freak now when it comes to my safety in a vehicle. I walked away from that accident, but psychologically, not so much.
Yes, I'm angry. I overpaid for EAP. For what I paid it should include FSD/HW3. Shortly after I bought it, Elon played pricing games with no concern for those of us who just shelled out huge amounts.
Yes, troubled by the term FSD- Elon just created it by stealing features from EAP- So far, FSD doesn't exist. If the day comes. that it's so fantastic that I can't live without it I'll probably be too old to drive. Its a gimmick right now, it might be something to show off to your friends at some point, but a car that truly takes you to a destination safely, 100% autonomously, consistently- not in my lifetime. I can't even consistently get my phone to work as a key!.. so drive me to Disney by itself??...- nope.
Ok, wait. Are you asking what we would pay to upgrade from EAP to FSD (which would get the new chip) or are you asking what we would pay to simply get the new chip? Those are really different questions and that's probably why you're getting screwy results.
I'd pay $2K for FSD but nothing for just a chip that doesn't do me any good.
Hank42
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I'd pay more than $5K when it reaches the point in which it is less stressful and anxiety producing to drive on autopilot (Or NOA or otherwise) than it is to drive manually. I encounter way too many situations where I drive that require human intervention - and I'm talking about pretty straight-forward highway merges etc. I feel like a PTSD survivor whenever I get out of the car driving on autopilot.
But I'd pay 0 for a "hardware upgrade" when the hardware I bought at the time I bought said feature should have been up to the task.
But I'd pay 0 for a "hardware upgrade" when the hardware I bought at the time I bought said feature should have been up to the task.
Wooloomooloo
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It would depend on features and when they because available, so difficult to answer. I remember someone once suggesting this be a subscription, which I think would be a great idea and would solve other concerns as well, like transferring to a new car (especially in the event of an insurance claim).
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