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How many miles per hour for a charge on a 110 volt outlet for Model S60

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by cplaw, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. cplaw

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    What is the charging rate (miles per hour) for a Model S60 being charged with a regular 110 volt outlet?
     
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    Depends on wiring and temperature, but usually 3 to 4 miles of rated range per hour of charging.
     
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    Tesla . com has a charging page with this exact scenario on it...
    Tesla Charging | Tesla Canada
     
  5. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    Four is very good, two or three is more typical. If you have a 20 amp dedicated 120, you might get six.
     
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    I get 3.6 every single night.
     
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    Accurate unless it is cold outside and some of the energy gets used to heat the pack. To get the most from a 110 20 amp circuit you need the 5-20 adaptor. NEMA_5-20_1024x1024.jpg
     
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    #8 Vic4Model3, Aug 3, 2016
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    MikingCO, when charging on 120 do you hear the coolant pump running continuously?
    4 hrs of charging at 120vac meets most of my daily needs, but I'm concerned about coolant pump wear. 4 x 7 = 28 hrs per week of pump run time. Anyone else concerned with coolant pump wear, while slown charging?
     
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    I think I've heard it maybe 3 times? It's rare.
     
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    I used to get about 4 (I'm sure it was like 3.x rounded up). Never had the coolant pump run on while charging on a 120V circuit.
     
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    I have had zero, when the car was plugged in during very cold weather (below freezing temperatures) and had 5 mph with a strong circuit and comfortable outside temperatures. I view 120v as essentially covering passive losses. Anything better than that I feel quite good.
     
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    It's no different for a 60 than any other Model S.
     
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    Isn't the limit 12 amps while charging on 120V ? In that case you would add 1.44 kw per hour minus about 12% heat loss .

    So 1.27 kw . If you average 3 miles per kWh , you get 3.8 miles .

    However , if you are only averaging 2.5 miles per kWh (400wh per mile) you get 3.17 miles .
     
  14. TexasEV

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    The limit is 12A when plugged into a 15 amp circuit. With a 20A circuit and the UMC 5-20 adapter you can draw 16A.
     
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    I get 5.6km rated range per hr of charge at home, so about 3.5mi/hr
    15A circuit (12A actual)
     
  16. Max*

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    Those are real miles, when the car charges it shows you the charge in rated miles which are independent of how you drive.
     
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    You can also convert a dedicated 5-15 outlet to 6-15, which is 240 V (15 A maximum). This would double the charging rate to about 8 miles / hour and I don't think you would need new wire, only a new outlet and a reconfigured circuit breaker. Link for the 6-15 Tesla adapter: Tesla — NEMA 6-15.
     
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  18. TexasEV

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    Theoretically, yes, but how many people have a dedicated 15A outlet in their garage?
     
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    Incorrect. Charge rate in mph is dependent on consumption, if you look at miles of range. Model X P90D would charge the slowest out of the Tesla fleet, Model S 60 would charge the fastest.
     
  20. TexasEV

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    I said of any Model S. The difference in consumption among the various Model S is not significant enough to materially change the charge rate. 120V 20A is 5 miles/hr plus or minus a fraction of a mile regardless of Model S. 240V 40A charging is 29 miles plus or minus a mile.
     

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