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How many of you will trade in your P85D for a new P90D?

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Judge Advocate, Jul 23, 2015.

  1. Judge Advocate

    Mar 31, 2015
    Mississauga, On, Can
    Just wondering if anyone will trade in his/her P85. 85, 85D, P85+ for the newly released car with 90 KW.
    My guess is some owners will just to have the latest and greatest!
  2. MsElectric

    MsElectric Active Member

    Oct 11, 2014
    New York
    Anyone considering doing this is better off waiting for the Autopilot Ver. 2.0 sensors and see what other Model X niceties make it to the Model S.

    It absolutely makes sense to upgrade to 90kwh for NEW orders but I see little sense in going through the cost and hassle for 15 miles of extra range.
  3. lolachampcar

    lolachampcar Active Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    WPB Florida
    contactor and pyro fuse for me only....
    I'm not giving up my early PD damper valving :)
  4. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Nov 10, 2011
    In a PM if you prefer, elaborate? (Description? And do you have it narrowed down to a VIN range?)
  5. Jaff

    Jaff Active Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Grimsby, Canada
    Trade up?, we moved up from a Sig to get the AWD...add Ludicrous? ....yupppppp!
  6. wk057

    wk057 Senior Tinkerer

    Feb 23, 2014
    Hickory, NC, USA
    #6 wk057, Jul 23, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2015
    Would be a financial bath to the tune of probably at least $60k to trade up to the car with everything I already have plus the extra 5kWh + Ludicrous mode. Then need to add dual chargers. Also would lose rear next gen seats since they don't seem to make those any more along with my original blue paint color, staggered wheel setup, etc.

    Definitely not worth trading right now.

    Edit: Yeah, just did up a design studio run for my car + Ludicrous and the 90 pack. "Before the $7,500.00 federal tax credit, the price of this Model Sis $141,200.00" ... + tax. + $2000 for dual chargers.

    KBB rates trade in on my car in excellent condition at ~$80k. $134k new, so that'd be a 40% hit after just 7 months... I'd actually be curious as to what Tesla themselves offered on trade-in since a 40% hit after 7 months seems really bad. :(
  7. Doug_G

    Doug_G Lead Moderator

    Apr 2, 2010
    Ottawa, Canada
    Love to, but an upgrade is not in the cards this year.

    Also I would lose my eight year "anywhere" service plan. You can't get those anymore. Won't matter so much once there's a service center in Ottawa.
  8. beeeerock

    beeeerock Active Member

    Mar 12, 2015
    Kamloops BC Canada
    If I'm in a situation where the 85D doesn't have the range to make the trip, it's very likely the 90D wouldn't manage it for me either. For the minor incremental range increase, I don't think I'd do it even if could be magically added to my car by paying the design studio difference - let alone the real cost of a trade.

    I think the range I have is acceptable and if there are improvements needed, it's in the availability of charging infrastructure. Another 15 miles of range isn't going to appreciably change the number of times I'm stuck to stop for a charge, or the time I'm cooling my heels waiting for the charge to complete. A full charge will take longer on the 90 than the 85, by the amount of 5 kWh, so in theory, stops would be slightly longer anyway, just marginally less frequent. Except that infrastructure isn't so plentiful yet that you can typically pass a charge station and go another 15 miles to another one. Around here, many trips require you to stop where the charge station is and top up when you can - there isn't any flexibility! 90 kWh won't change that.

    At some point, adding range is going to be like adding a second fuel tank to your F350. Not really necessary except for a very few, or those who just don't want to stop at a gas station as often. But the gas stations will still need to be available before you finally drain the second tank...

    Think of it another way... if your ICE car model had improved fuel economy by 5% in the next model year, would you have traded for that alone?
  9. Spurkey

    Spurkey P04251

    Jan 25, 2012
    Edmonton, Alberta
    My car's due to get shipped to Vancouver for a service issue, during my conversation with one of the Tesla service techs I asked about the 90 kWH - I was told that to buy the battery outright as an upgrade would be $26,000. Eye-watering no doubt, but when I bought my car 2.5 years ago I was told the replacement cost for an 85 kWH battery was $40,000 so it was rather interesting to see the sharp decline in price. Factor in the MSRP creeping up over time (I paid $107,000 for my P85, buying an equivalent D now would cost me well over $140,000) and the idea of buying a new battery outright in a few years isn't actually that *cough* ludicrous. Would I pay $15-20,000 for a 125 kWH fresh pack? I would strongly consider it. :)

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