it's not about want... you simply cannot tow a 15k lbs horse trailer with any EV truck available
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How many will look into the F-150 Lightning?
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No better all around EV truck 
Wonder what kind of range they get. That would take up a large amount of room while charging
Nice picture
We just learned that towing something like that it would drain the Lighting F150 within 100 miles or less.. Interesting to find out how that RIVIAN does..We know the towing capacity but no one has actually published how much kWh you use up while towing.
ZenRockGarden
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We know the towing capacity but no one has actually published how much kWh you use up while towing.
It depends on what you're towing, but it seems pretty clear that hauling something large basically doubles your consumption and cuts your range in half. That's going to require either some really huge battery packs, or a lot of planning for those who like to really get-away-from-it-all. Solar power is a nice thought, but the surface area of the vehicle and trailer alone isn't really going to put a dent in a 100-200 KWh pack - you'd have to fold out something huge, and have it out all day while traveling at night to make that off-grid scenario work.
The system for managing the trailer looks very good. Over time, it refines the range estimate for the defined trailer based on real world use, making it much less likely you'll have an unwelcome surprise.
For folks in CA, whose houses have solar PV and utilities that charge extreme rates for electricity usage in the evening, use of stationary batteries would be a daily cycling event for peak shaving. One would, most likely, not want to do this to one's vehicle battery as it would prematurely wear out the battery. However, a separate battery, such as a Powerwall, or perhaps an RV would not be subject to daily driving use so it can make sense economically when just the RV battery without home connection or the Powerwall that is only for storage, might not.
That's stretching beyond the topic and the intended use. Those who want off-grid solar capability need a dedicated system like Simpliphi. Those who live in an area with extreme rates & unreliability in their grid, should take steps to resolve the core causational issues, which are easily solvable. (Occam's Razor.)
As far as the backup capabilities of the Lightning, it's perfect for dealing with the intermittent to short duration events as intended, which is what most of us face.
The necessary charger is included with the extended range battery, and hardware per the website is $3,895.
strider
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Looks like Ford is waking up to the dealer price gouging issue:
www.caranddriver.com
Ford Is Going to 100% Online, Fixed-Price Sales For EVs, Says CEO Jim Farley
The Ford CEO explains that direct delivery, zero negotiation, and fully online transactions will be necessary for the brand's EV business.
www.caranddriver.com
SmartElectric
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Care to revise your estimate?
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The majority of 4 place or larger Horse/Livestock trailers are 5th Wheel or Gooseneck. Even with a 2 Horse bumper pull trailer I sure would not drop my trailer with Horses in it and leave it someplace to charge the truck. Some of these trailers even have living quarters.
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thank you. either way you aren't towing a 4 horse trailer with a F150 / Silverado / R1T / cybertruck or F150 Lightning.... gooseneck and HD trucks like F250/F350 or Silverado/Sierra HD with a diesel engine
roblab
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as to the OP's question, "How many will..." I'd like to add, "How many won't?" I'm one. I could care less about Ford, who historically have built a cheap product. Fix Or Repair Daily is not just a cute acronym. When Toyota started selling in the US, Ford and GM had to step up their game or go out of business. If not for Toyota, they would still be selling junk. And they know it.
scottf200
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SmartElectric
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I've owned 4 Ford's, across three decades. No major issues that weren't caused by me (hard driving). Solid cars.
1991 Tempo. First car. Drove the crap out of it for 4 years, sold to my parents. Zero maintenance. Never changed the oil. Blew a head gasket at year 16, 100,000 km and was scrapped.
1995 Contour 5 speed 24 valve. Drove the absolute crap out of it. Blew up engine at 12 years and 260,000 km of very very hard driving, red line shifting, hard acceleration from most stops, hard braking and cornering. Got $200 as trade in allowance for Taurus (see down).
2001 Focus. Used, was dealers wife's car. Drove to 80,000 km in 13 years, low maintenance, changed oil once a year. Got $200 trade in allowance when I bought my 2013 Smart Electric drive.
2006 Taurus. Used. Drove to 12 years, wife's car so oil and all scheduled maintenance always done, no major issues. $800 trade in allowance when sold.
I am trading a 2013 Tesla Model S for my 2023 Ford Lightning. Will miss the Tesla. Have ZERO concerns on upcoming Ford Lightning purchase.
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