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How much is electricity in your neck of the woods?

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by carrerascott, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. carrerascott

    carrerascott FUEL FTR

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    #1 carrerascott, Feb 13, 2013
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    Just curious the range of electricity prices people are paying. I know we have it pretty good where we live from reading the rates in California...

    Our cost is 9.515c/kWh for the first 300kWh and 8.286c/kWh after that (per month). We're on Rappahannock Electric Coop in central Virginia.

    I checked on off-peak charging and I don't think it makes sense for us:

    I have our garage on a separate meter and could get a Time of Use (off peak) schedule, but the rates for that would be 21.578c/kWh (20.348c/kWh after 300kWh) on peak* and 6.074c/kWh off peak (4.844c/kWh after 300kWh).

    * they define on-peak as: May thru Sept 3-7pm on weekdays (excluding weekends, Memorial Day, July 4th and Labor Day)
    Oct-April 6-9am and 5-8pm on weekdays, excluding weekends, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Day and New Year's Day)

    Not sure if it's worth doing the on/off-peak think because if I did need to charge during peak hours (or use other stuff), the 21.578c/kWh would be a killer!


    The upside is saving 3.5c/kWh but the downside is paying an extra 12c/kWh during peak hours.


    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]To charge the Tesla from empty (which wouldn't happen that often) would theoretically take 85kWh, which on the regular rate would be $8.08, and on the off peak rate it would be $5.73 (both the under 300kWh price).[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]At the over 300kWh price it would be $7.02 on the regular plan and $4.12 on the offpeak plan.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]The drawback of the on-peak plan is that any power used at the on-peak times about is pricey! Charging the car during those times would be $18.34. Cheaper than gas, but, not cheap![/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Could definitely charge the car on the cheap from 8pm-6am and 9am-5pm Oct-April and 7pm-3pm May thru Sept... though. So... the off-peak plan might make sense (for our detached garage only).[/FONT]
     
  2. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

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    Somewhere between 8.5c/kWh and 9c/kWh here in REA co-op land in Southern IL.
     
  3. Kaivball

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    9.5-17.5 depending on tier in NorCal.

    Very expensive out here. But people "love" their green energy... :(
     
  4. clea

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    there is an old thread from last year around this time already discussing this kWh prices world-wide ... might be worth perusing to satisfy your curiosity.
     
  5. herbvdh

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    PSE&G Northern NJ 17.3 cents per Kilowatt Hour average as the rates vary from house to house. I have two electric bills both at a different rate. No tiered rates or anything here. I have solar panels does about 55% of the bill.
     
  6. carrerascott

    carrerascott FUEL FTR

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    Thanks didn't see that.
     
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    Actually, be sure to add about 20% to what the car says you need to recharge for charging overhead. That is about what i have been experiencing over the last 5k miles on my MS.
     
  8. Enadler

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    In NY I am paying 21.5c/kwh. I am looking into adding solar as well as a time of use plan. However, the TOU plan is very dicey due to the steep penalty for peak usage.
     
  9. carrerascott

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    Makes sense, though I'd almost never charge from empty, and almost never charge to full capacity. So "fill ups" should be less than quoted about.

    I'm guessing with the relatively low rates we have, solar would take a much longer time to pay back down here.
     
  10. shokunin

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    That's cheap!

    In SoCal Edison in Irvine, the basic tiered rate is as follows:

    January (winter baseline) 285KW.

    Tier 1 - up to 285 kWh = $0.12 kWh - 285 kWh total
    Tier 2 - next 86 kWh = $0.15 kWh - 371 kWh total
    Tier 3 - next 200 kWh = $0.29 kWh - 571 kWh total
    Tier 4 - next 285 kWh = $0.32 kWh - 856 kWh total
    Tier 5 - anything more = $0.36 kWh -> any excess over 856 kWh

    Moving to TOU can save quite a bit of money since it doesn't take much electricity until you're in the $0.29 kw tier.
     
  11. aronth5

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    National Grid in Massachusetts: 15 cents per Kilowatt Hour average. No tiered or off peak rates for average residential customers. I have solar panels which cover about 40% of the bill.
     
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    I don't think any of the Cali guys want to know what others pay for electricity. PGE and SoCal Edison are ripoff-ville. :cursing:
     
  13. traxila

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    Yeah, been wanting to post this as well. Basic math tells me that my last bill good old Con Ed hit me for 31.5 cents per kilowatt. Bayside, NY. How does that work? And trust me, this is not 'green'. Guess I'm getting taken to the woodshed no matter what. Tis what itis.
     
  14. Plug Me In

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    about $0.08 /kWh here in Lynchburg, VA - Appalachian Electric Power. That's an average from my bills and I've emailed them to see if there's a tier structure. Scott, you may want to check out Dominion Power as they have some special EV programs. Unfortunately I live on the wrong side of the James River for Dominion.
     
  15. carrerascott

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    Unfortunately I don't think we have a choice. We were switched to Rappahannock about a year or two ago, and they have no EV programs that I've been able to find.

     
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    Here in the north (Ottawa, ON) our electricity seems a touch cheaper.

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    Makes up for the fact that I pay $5.34 / gallon for premium gas (as of 30 minutes ago). I can't wait to not pay for gas anymore.. ugh.
     
  17. mknox

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    Unfortunately, that is only the provincial commodity charges and they do not include loss factor adjustments and delivery charges. In actual fact, it would be closer to:

    Off Peak: 11.96 cents
    Mid Peak: 16.17 cents
    On Peak: 18.40 cents

    These are my rates in the Toronto suburbs with a utility loss factor of 1.0349 and combined delivery charges of 4.07 cents then 13% HST added. If you are a rural Hydro One customer, I'm sorry to say it will even be higher.
     
  18. ddenboer

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    In my billing cycle I go from tier 1 to tier 4 pretty quickly, but for the first 7-10 days, we pay $0.05/kWh to charge the Model S from midnight to 7am. Near the end of the billing cycle, we pay $0.35/kWh to charge off peak.
    I can't wait for our new house with 36 solar panels...
     
  19. eelton

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    8.79 cents (including fees) per kWh in Chicago.

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  20. inottawa

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    I somehow managed to completely overlook that. Ratz
     

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