TexLaw
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Bah. This thread is a tar baby. I should have known better and spent my time weeding the garden.
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TSLA Pilot, we really tried our best on this forum to help you understand, but cannot help those that do not accept help
BTW, very poor form to mention your wealth on TMC ... we are not impressed and your trade-in value should be of no consequence
Tesla builds new cars in a factory. Why would they be interested in buying a two year old car at the same price that they can build new ones for?
I couldn't disagree more. More customers or more revenue per customer does not mean more profit; often the reverse happens if a business isn't able to scale. Margin is what matters.
If the price is so bad, why don't you just sell the car yourself on the open market ?Are you sitting down? Tesla's Trade-In value on our wrapped, flawless, 2015 P90DL (with EVERY AVAILABLE OPTION, less 3rd Row Seats; MSRP $142,200; 8,800 miles), is an insulting $97,600. (And in late-December the Trade-In value was only $101k; that killed that deal too.)
TSLA Pilot welcome to the real world. A 18.9% markup on trade-in value isn't too bad. There is no guarantee Telsa can sell your car for $116,000. It might take 6 months or more to sell the car and they could get less than $100,000.
Also the Model S deliveries have been down from the 2015 Q4 high for sometime. I'm not sure why you would just decide to have an issue now. Model X deliveries are still growing. Many people are waiting for a Model 3.
If the price is so bad, why don't you just sell the car yourself on the open market ?
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I wish you'd support your thoughts more clearly
Deliveries are down due to supply side, not demand side, right? Tesla is selling every car the factory can build? There isn't a big inventory of new cars building up somewhere?
If so, there's no incentive for them to help anyone into a new car and nothing to be gained by it. If every car is going to sell anyway, minimal trade-in accommodations and max new car margins is where market forces point.
The results speak for themselves with deliveries down 10%, and no one but me here appears to acknowledge the problem, but it's straight from Page 1 of their recent release three days ago:
Introduction | Tesla Motors.
Your entire argument boils down to a shallow complaint about the trade-in value for your car, with a little bit of window dressing about a dip in QoQ deliveries and a suboptimal CPO website. Sure, Tesla can improve (what company can't) but it's obvious to everyone here that you're hurt that Tesla doesn't love your baby as much as you do.
Nah, that's retirement money for decades from now.
Being efficient with money isn't the same as being cheap, but I can't squander it.
In this case, I want to give Tesla money, but Tesla makes it hard to do that; that's not a recipe for success and we need all of them we can get.
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Hank (of EV-CPO.com fame) has relayed the "flushing" of CPO cars into the wholesale used car auctions-
I have yet to read a single cogent reply supporting the status quo of crappy CPO sales results, no CPO search engine, and Hank's report of massive "flushes" of Tesla trade ins to the used car dealers around the globe
Tesla's sales are down because they overpromised everyone in November & December AP 2.0 and never delivered. They also said free Supercharging would end December 31st which they later extended to try keep sales moving.