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Totally agree. You hit a sore spot. And in most cases, businesses depend on customers to subsidize their crappy wages by tipping servers. Tipping is supposed to be for services above and beyond normal. That's why it is called a gratuity. It is the one reason I don't go to restaurants that charge a 15%, 18%, or even 20% "AUTOMATIC" tip for 6 or more people. It's nuts. Pay your people more. When I go to other countries and tip them for good service, they really appreciate. Here, people expect it.tipping is a strange custom in the US.
One of my favorite restaurants has this printed on their menus:Totally agree. You hit a sore spot. And in most cases, businesses depend on customers to subsidize their crappy wages by tipping servers. Tipping is supposed to be for services above and beyond normal. That's why it is called a gratuity. It is the one reason I don't go to restaurants that charge a 15%, 18%, or even 20% "AUTOMATIC" tip for 6 or more people. It's nuts. Pay your people more. When I go to other countries and tip them for good service, they really appreciate. Here, people expect it.
It's great because what you see is what you get in terms of the price of dinner (with the exception of sales tax). The staff don't have to depend on the largesse of customers to make a living. Customers don't have to worry about whether or not they're tipping enough.All of our menu prices include a living wage, revenue share, paid family leave, fully funded health & dental insurance, paid time off, and a 401(k) with employer match for all of our hard working employees.
~No Tips Expected~
Interesting. I rarely see anything like that. And I hope folks don't get me wrong. We do tips for services, BUT it varies on the service, not what is considered "typical". Sometimes it is 25%, sometimes it might be 5%. On rare occasions it is ZERO! I realize that many hard working people depend on tips. However sad that businesses don't do their share in many cases.One of my favorite restaurants has this printed on their menus:
It's great because what you see is what you get in terms of the price of dinner (with the exception of sales tax). The staff don't have to depend on the largesse of customers to make a living. Customers don't have to worry about whether or not they're tipping enough.
One of my favorite restaurants has this printed on their menus:
It's great because what you see is what you get in terms of the price of dinner (with the exception of sales tax). The staff don't have to depend on the largesse of customers to make a living. Customers don't have to worry about whether or not they're tipping enough.
in tokyo I had a server stop me at the door to return the little money I left on the table. in europe I leave the small change on the table. In london I had a porter refuse a tip for bringing my bags to the doors when the street I was on was closed a half of a block from my destination.I concur.
Being overseas for 3 years really got me accustomed to not tipping, it's almost frowned upon in England. Nobody tips me for doing my job...
It's not so much that this restaurant is including an arbitrary "tip" amount into their pricing but, rather, that they are paying their employees fairly and providing them with benefits. In order to do so, their pricing reflects the costs associated with this. It's a French restaurant and the owners are French, so I guess they just have a different philosophy about how their employees should be treated and compensated.Interesting. I rarely see anything like that. And I hope folks don't get me wrong. We do tips for services, BUT it varies on the service, not what is considered "typical". Sometimes it is 25%, sometimes it might be 5%. On rare occasions it is ZERO! I realize that many hard working people depend on tips. However sad that businesses don't do their share in many cases.
Seems like my previous question got hijacked a bit ... so I am going to make it a poll.
When a valet flat beds your car hundreds of miles ... routinely ... how much do you tip them?
Instead of stiffing the server on a tip, talk to them or the manager about what you didn't like. How can you expect them to change if you just give them less tip. They might think you're cheap.Our ingrained thought process is a 20% tip when eating out. Now, when I get lousy service I want to cut that back but my wife (the one with a heart) always feels bad for them.
Humans do not turn down money
the problem with stiffing the server is that sometimes the issues are not caused by your server, it could be a slow bartender or a disorganized kitchen that made your service less than perfect.Instead of stiffing the server on a tip, talk to them or the manager about what you didn't like. How can you expect them to change if you just give them less tip. They might think you're cheap.
I've given a $0.01 tip when I was pissed off at service, with a few comments jotted down on the receipt in the past. :blush: It's better than no tip!
Instead of stiffing the server on a tip, talk to them or the manager about what you didn't like. How can you expect them to change if you just give them less tip. They might think you're cheap.
I've given a $0.01 tip when I was pissed off at service, with a few comments jotted down on the receipt in the past. :blush: It's better than no tip!
I agree. I wasn't advocating for stiffing servers, I was advocating for talking to management and telling them what sucks.the problem with stiffing the server is that sometimes the issues are not caused by your server, it could be a slow bartender or a disorganized kitchen that made your service less than perfect.
the problem with stiffing the server is that sometimes the issues are not caused by your server, it could be a slow bartender or a disorganized kitchen that made your service less than perfect.