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How noticeable is the acceleration boost from a dual motor long range to a performance Model 3?
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Knightshade
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They will, since as I told you, all Ps have it (and track mode, but the red underline is quicker/easier as a check)
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Red underline on screen, and under the badge on the rear of the car.
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Red underline on screen, and under the badge on the rear of the car.
So, if one were looking on the Tesla site at an otherwise typical used Dual Motor Long Range (18" wheels, no spoiler, etc), then an underlined badge rear Dual Motor badge would be a good indicator of a P Stealth.
Knightshade
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On the Tesla site? Probably.
Used from anyplace else? You can buy a red underline badge for any car. Check the actual screen display for the red underline.
Plus for most of 2018 they weren't giving out badges, so it's pretty likely there's a decent # of P3D- with no badge at all, but the screen will still be correct.
Yes, but I'd definitely want to see it on screen, too. There's nothing preventing Tesla from flashing a Stealth to normal LR AWD software.
JasonR67
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Also confirming that the red underline is there on stealth's (Rear badge and about screen).
Yes, but the rear badge can be removed and/or faked.. the underline on the about screen would be much harder to fake, at least in person.
Yes, but the rear badge can be removed and/or faked.. the underline on the about screen would be much harder to fake, at least in person.
The used market can be tricky as a lot of dealers really don't know that much about Tesla or how the vehicles options work so you need to make sure to get the right questions answered. I agree with the other poster that says you need to get a screen shot of the info screen and look for the red line because I haven't found any other reliable method to identify a stealth P. I also recommend getting a screen shot of the autopilot screen to see if summon and navigate on autopilot is enabled to help determine if it might have EAP or FSD.
Funny story about that. I found my Performance model at a used Chevy dealership in a different state using a TruCar.com search. They advertised it as a dual motor because there were no badges and the VIN only told them "dual motor"...
I saw the add the day it was posted, saw the red calipers, spoiler, and large rims in the pics and assumed it was a P. I had them take a picture of the info screen and the autopilot screen that confirmed for me that it was a P with either EAP or FSD. I got on a plane the next morning to buy it at considerably less than market for a P. Turned out to be a P with FSD, Paint Protection Film across the whole front end, Tint, and lifetime premium connectivity for about what you'd pay for a dual motor with regular autopilot. It just goes to show that there are deals to be had if you search but you need to be patient. I had been looking for 6 months.
I understand the importance of verifying a Stealth P by checking the car's info screen and not relying on the badge.
I was interested in a relatively quick way to identify a Stealth P among listings on the official Tesla pre-owned website, and an underlined Dual Motor badge seems to be a good start.
I have purchased several used cars though the years, but they have all been CPO cars purchased from authorized dealers. I am not inclined to purchase a used Tesla from a private party or non-Tesla dealer.
Thanks again.
Apologies to the OP for this sidebar discussion.
I was interested in a relatively quick way to identify a Stealth P among listings on the official Tesla pre-owned website, and an underlined Dual Motor badge seems to be a good start.
I have purchased several used cars though the years, but they have all been CPO cars purchased from authorized dealers. I am not inclined to purchase a used Tesla from a private party or non-Tesla dealer.
Thanks again.
Apologies to the OP for this sidebar discussion.
MichaelP90DL
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This is also a true story. There is a dealer in Pomona, CA, that sells only BEVs and hybrids. They had a white Model S P90D at a very reasonable price but somehow they missed that underline, for Ludicrous Mode. You'd think they'd know what they had, but they did not. Somebody snatched it before I could.
FWIW - the stealth is also noted as a performance model on the car's title work.
edit: forgot to mention that I can tell the difference between the performance and AWD versions. I love having the stealth and would have also been very happy with the regular AWD.
edit: forgot to mention that I can tell the difference between the performance and AWD versions. I love having the stealth and would have also been very happy with the regular AWD.
Knightshade
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That has not been universally true (indeed prior to 2020 models the P and LR AWD used the same vin code for motors)
Garlan Garner
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I notice the difference, however my wife doesn't.
I mean I really notice the difference.
dreamgt
P3D+
I'm not sure what the difference really is, as I haven't driven a boosted LR. But the P3D is ridiculously fast and enjoyable. I can't wait to take it to a track to really put it through its paces.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Last year...I officially received a 2.8 0-60 time 3 times in a row at the Joliet Autobahn here in Illinois.
Like you - I can't wait to see what the times are since we have received the latest update.
2.7? 2.6? WOW!!
Knightshade
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Which is almost .2 faster than anyone else ever, and .3-.4 quicker than anyone else ever at the time you did it (since it was before the 5% updates), which is why it's very, very, very hard to believe.
More likely the equipment had an issue or wasn't calibrated correctly since nobody else ever has replicated it or even come close.
There’s a bigger numerical difference in G forces between the Boosted and Performance than there is between the Boosted and not boosted. So yes, noticeable difference
There’s a bigger numerical difference in G forces between the Boosted and Performance than there is between the Boosted and not boosted. So yes, noticeable difference
It's interesting that there is such a big G difference but the acceleration difference of the LR AWD+ is directly in the middle of the LR AWD and Performance.
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