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I was wondering if someone could explain when they are finding autosteer useful. Do you just hope it works or you find it easier to drive with FSD engaged?
So, when you use it you 100% rely on it or you still in control? I figured if I have to hold the steering wheel then I might as well drive the car.I've manually steered all my life since the old days of Ford Escort all the way to classic manual Model S. Not until I got my 2017 FSD and I've been enjoyed it ever since. I've used AutoSteer whenever it allows me to do even though the official use is only for Freeways. I've used it in small streets, city streets, anywhere I could.
That means I've found it very useful.
So, when you use it you 100% rely on it or you still in control? I figured if I have to hold the steering wheel then I might as well drive the car.
Interesting points but here's my question:One limitation of autosteer seems to me the basically unability to determine at what speed a car should be driving through a curve.
Not all the freeways are just straights lines, in some areas freeways and highwyas can be very curvy.
Basically the car is designed to drive exactly in the center of a lane and at the posted speed limit.
In the reality, you always reduce your speed before approaching a curve and accelerate when exiting a curve.
Also you put your car more in the inside of a curve to compensate the centrifugal force pushing the car outside of the curve.
Autosteer drives more like a beginner driver who doesn't look too much ahead to anticipate actions resulting in a smooth driving.
As a result, when using autosteer, I am constantly adjusting the speed when approaching a curve, and I often needs to take over
the steering wheel when there are walls or guards rails close to the lane's side or when there are cars coming in the opposite direction.
Something to be very cautious about is that the car is really focus on staying in middle of a lane, even when passing a truck who,
because of its size, occupy the full width of its lane. You would naturally move a little bit on the opposite side of your lane in this situation,
but autosteer is not able to detect how close you might be when passing a truck, so sometime you might be few inches from a truck side.
So, I understand that you've learned how to use FSD to be safe. My question to you is if you think it's a more relaxing way to drive or a different way to drive? Do you use it when you are tired?I quickly learned with my 200-mile drive home from Fremont delivery in 2017 that Tesla handsfree Autosteer has been a bad idea!
That's because Tesla Autosteer can steer very wrongly and if I don't monitor the robot's steering torque, I could have been toast for the past 4 years.
Look how doing 25 MPH handsfree AutoSteer would get you to kiss the big boulders in Yosemite. That was reliably repeated 5 times in just 1 month:
Because I monitor the torque, I can feel how right or how wrong the AutoSteer is and I can correct it very seamlessly and easily. The above boulder accident would not happen to me because my hands would already be on the steering wheel and my hands would already feel the torque trying to leave the road in order to kiss the boulder. In that case, I just need to stiffen my hands upon the steering wheel, the AutoSteer would be overridden/disabled while the car goes straight without skipping a heartbeat.
For the first 200 miles that I drove my car from Fremont factory to my home, I was tense to figure out how to work with Autosteer. After that, it has been a very relaxing experience for me.
My personal opinion is that for relatively open rural interstate highways it makes it much more relaxing to make long drives. If you use it on crowded freeways in cities or on city streets then it causes that same level of anxiety as having a brand new teenage driver behind the wheel and you are the instructor watching them. So, no, not relaxing at all. It's interesting, but not relaxing.Interesting points but here's my question:
Do you feel like it's more work overseeing FSD than regular driving?
Do you use it when you are tired?
Exactly! I've learned what it wants and I feed it!So, I understand that you've learned how to use FSD to be safe.
Definitely. The only time I was tense was the first miles when I drove home from Fremont Factory. Once I got home after 200 miles. It has definitely a much more relaxing way to drive.My question to you is if you think it's a more relaxing way to drive
I continue to be amazed by people using AutoSteer on city streets where it is never designed for.My personal opinion is that for relatively open rural interstate highways it makes it much more relaxing to make long drives. If you use it on crowded freeways in cities or on city streets then it causes that same level of anxiety as having a brand new teenage driver behind the wheel and you are the instructor watching them. So, no, not relaxing at all. It's interesting, but not relaxing.
I continue to be amazed by people using AutoSteer on city streets where it is never designed for.
I like to use FSD as much as possible, especially in a long journey, this is very relaxing to have but you need to look aheadInteresting points but here's my question:
Do you feel like it's more work overseeing FSD than regular driving?
Alex, sure people do. People also make phone calls, text while driving etc.I continue to be amazed by people using AutoSteer on city streets where it is never designed for.
I'm waiting for the next FSD before I try it on cities.Alex, sure people do. People also make phone calls, text while driving etc.
I'm a construction contractor and do a lot of city driving. It's wrong but I also call and text all the time. It's unsafe and I'm wondering if FSD would make it a little safer.
Alex, sure people do. People also make phone calls, text while driving etc.
I'm a construction contractor and do a lot of city driving. It's wrong but I also call and text all the time. It's unsafe and I'm wondering if FSD would make it a little safer.
I've noticed that too. I haven't done any detailed checking to confirm but it seems to do it only a higher speeds - not sure what the cutoff may be. It also seems to allow it when you're at a higher speed and then engage.I wrote this recently (while on our last road-tri):
“We are currently on our second road trip. My wife originally was afraid of the auto-pilot because of some phantom brakings. Now she wants me to engage it as soon as possible since auto-pilot drives better than I do, especially on curves when the car pretty much stays in the middle of the lane all the time.
I can’t imagine buying anything other than a Tesla now since no other car has even close self-driving capabilities”.
Now that we are back, there were some instances that I was not able to use auto-steer when it did not allow me to drive faster than +5 mph over the speed limit and I was constantly being in the way of traffic flow (I had to use TACC instead). It’s weird because sometimes it does allow more than +5 mph over, and sometimes not. Does anyone understand the logic here?
I find monitoring FSD a little exhausting at times and not at all relaxing. I liken it to driving with a teenager on the highway for the first time. I drive a lot (over one million miles in 40 years) and I enjoy driving - especially the Tesla. Being driven by it, not so much, but the technology interests me.Interesting points but here's my question:
Do you feel like it's more work overseeing FSD than regular driving?