please see my post
Yes I found that the Model S was not as rewarding, there was very little road feedback from the steering wheel. The Model S is closer to a Lexus or Acura vs an Italian or German sedan.
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please see my post
Yes I found that the Model S was not as rewarding, there was very little road feedback from the steering wheel. The Model S is closer to a Lexus or Acura vs an Italian or German sedan.
yes even using those vehicles the comparison still is relevant. I have driven an LF-A and it was extremely refined at highway speeds. Doesn't Paris Hilton drive one?
Must be an enthusiasts car
@bonnie
By "preceding posts", I mean the ones prior to Alex's.
Edit:
Elaborating. Part of Alex's point, I think, was regarding the 'more' part. The Roadster having more character than the S rather than different character from the S.
I have no idea if that assertion is right or wrong. Hence my query for more information.
Bonnie's reply had 3 parts as I saw it: (a) a nod to the S as having some desirable traits, (b) a discussion of some Roadster owner experience, and (c) an appreciation of the sports car traits that the Roadster offers.
My interpretation:
(a) Counter-argument to the "more" assertion.
(b) Argument for the "character in the sense of challenges to overcome for the driver and growing pains of a new company such as Tesla" meaning of character.
(c) Appreciation for sports car traits rather than Roadster specifically.
Given that information and interpretation, I reached the conclusion in my previous post that only (b) supports the "more" assertion and continued from there.
Perhaps I misunderstood.
By "preceding posts", I mean the ones prior to Alex's.
Edit:
Elaborating. Part of Alex's point, I think, was regarding the 'more' part. The Roadster having more character than the S rather than different character from the S.
I have no idea if that assertion is right or wrong. Hence my query for more information.
Bonnie's reply had 3 parts as I saw it: (a) a nod to the S as having some desirable traits, (b) a discussion of some Roadster owner experience, and (c) an appreciation of the sports car traits that the Roadster offers.
My interpretation:
(a) Counter-argument to the "more" assertion.
(b) Argument for the "character in the sense of challenges to overcome for the driver and growing pains of a new company such as Tesla" meaning of character.
(c) Appreciation for sports car traits rather than Roadster specifically.
Given that information and interpretation, I reached the conclusion in my previous post that only (b) supports the "more" assertion and continued from there.
Perhaps I misunderstood.
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Jaff
Active Member
Jaff
Active Member
Remember, "beauty is in the eye..." ...to Paris Hilton, if she has an LF-A, then it must have soul (as soul appeals to her)...to each his / her own imo...
yes even using those vehicles the comparison still is relevant. I have driven an LF-A and it was extremely refined at highway speeds. Doesn't Paris Hilton drive one?
I added a picture with stars, if it helps? I can't change the options, though. I guess only moderators can do that.
For what it's worth, that's exactly what I want. When I want to get out and drive, I want a great experience, not a wrestling match with a steering wheel. During my test drive, I *really* liked the steering and I think it's more of what steering should be. If I want to feel "road feedback", I'll get in my 1960's Mustang without power steering.
Model S is a great, sporty sedan / saloon. It's not a supercar.
Are you getting a performance? It would be nice if the performance package included the option for a sportier steering setup (enthusiasts will be getting the performance and this will be a welcome addition). What car are you coming from? Do you really feel that the Model S Performance is a drivers car? I do not think anyone is asking for supercar steering, but rather steering that is as good as other electric steering setups that other luxury marques have implemented. At 108k the sig performance package should really include a sportier steering setup IMO.
NigelM
Recovering Member
Have you driven the Model S yet? those settings just change the amount of effort necessary to turn the wheel. I did not notice a significant difference with regards to road feel when changing those settings... Those settings are available on every Model S and just change the effort required to spin the wheel. Anyone else who has driven the Model S please feel free to chime in (particularly interested in individuals who changed those settings and if they felt a change in the way the steering communicated road feedback).
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Smooth's right. My co-pilot cycled through all 3 settings for the steering feel. I couldn't tell any difference in road feel; it seemed to only control how tight the wheel felt. Speaking of which, Standard and worse, Comfort felt rather wimpy. Sport setting was good but, not as good as in BMWs. Would have preferred a stiffer feel in Sport.
spatterso911
P100DL - Raven
That, unfortunately, is a fault of all electric steering. Most manufacturers that have switched to full EPS have to deal with the incumbent reduced road feel in some way. BMW is harshly criticized for this in the new M5 and current 5 series.
Bardlebee
Member
I couldn't find the thread for this, but how does the steering work as far as power steering? Is it all electric too or does it need power steering fluid?
Electric steering is shorthand for electric power steering. I don't think a car would meet safety standards if it didn't have a mechanical connection to the wheels. The mechanical connection will be the same as in any other car.
And no, there is no power steering fluid.
Bardlebee
Member
A question I ponder from this is how its so easy to switch between smooth and rigid steering. Is that a feature that other cars have nowadays? Or is this unique to the Model S?
I don't know if other cars are adjustable, I know the Prius isn't. The electric steering is either on or off (off only when it's broken--not that mine has ever broke). It's easy in the Model S because the of the advanced display. Basically you just increase or decrease the power to motor (I don't actually know how Tesla controls it, but adding or subtracting the amount of power that the steering motor gets seems like an easy way).
Bardlebee
Member
I like the idea that we can just press a button on an ever-changing console to modify how your car behaves and uses its resources. It is truly a futuristic car. It will be of greater benefit because I imagine people tend to find themselves looking at newer consoles of model cars that are newer cars with envy. The Model S's LCD console doesn't suffer from this and is only a software patch.
Agreed. I think a lot of people buy a new car just because they are tired of looking at the old display. In the future I would like Telsa to be able to incorporate themes and other dash customizations.
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