HW3? M3 C-Pillar cameras spotted.

[croman]

Model 3 is spotted with an extra set of cameras in the C-Pillar.

New sensors spotted on Tesla Model 3: Autopilot 2.0 could have 10 cameras

Has Tesla failed already with the HW2 configuration? To me I am afraid that our hardware is now acknowledged as deficient. I hope not though.

 

[bswn1]

Just re watched the original Elon posted and you can see it in the video!

 

[chillaban]

Crap! Time to cancel my AP2 order already?

 

[bswn1]

Just thinking this through, my best guess is those cameras are positioned for redundancy.

If you look at the map of the AP2 cameras on Autopilot the area with the largest single point of failure are the sides of the vehicle.

I'd be very surprised if this was a necessity... the biggest area imo is the processing power and not the number of cameras.

 

[disagree]

Model 3 is spotted with an extra set of cameras in the C-Pillar.

New sensors spotted on Tesla Model 3: Autopilot 2.0 could have 10 cameras

Has Tesla failed already with the HW2 configuration? To me I am afraid that our hardware is now acknowledged as deficient. I hope not though.

Good grief. Maybe it's time to join that class action.

 

[EV-lutioin]

If you are surprised or annoyed that Tesla keeps innovating and improving then you don't know Tesla very well. What would be truly surprising is if the M3 did not have some new hardware vs. the last hardware update to M/S back in November. Innovation at Tesla tends to occur at ludicrous speed.

 

[johnzhang22]

Elon said that Model S and X will always be the technology leaders of Tesla. If this is true, we should be seeing 10 cameras in the S/X in Q2.

 

[disagree]

If you are surprised or annoyed that Tesla keeps innovating and improving then you don't know Tesla very well. What would be truly surprising is if the M3 did not have some new hardware vs. the last hardware update to M/S back in November. Innovation at Tesla tends to occur at ludicrous speed.

Are you replying to me?

I care about getting what I was told I was getting. IF, and I know how conditionals work, Tesla has already figured out that they need more cameras to achieve FSD, then they lied to every HW2 purchaser. In this case, I want my money back or a car that can do what I was sold.

Innovation is not inconsistent with honesty. Nor does it excuse fraud. If you are surprised or annoyed that people prefer not to be defrauded, then you don't know people very well.

 

[chillaban]

Hey now, maybe they're not cameras, or they're for unrelated top-down views (surround cams?)

 

[disagree]

Hey now, maybe they're not cameras, or they're for unrelated top-down views (surround cams?)

In which case, that'd be neat and I could make what's his head upthread happy with my lack of surprise or annoyance at a new feature.

 

[GBleck]

Speculation but they could be for facial recognition for rear seat passengers for teslas ride share service.

 

[lunitiks]

Those are not cameras for autopilot.

* Look at the size and rectangular cutout, and compare it to the B-pillar. Impossibru!
* The PX2 unit (used in S/X) wouldn't have free ports for this, i.e. Tesla would have to produce another version of the ECU to fit two extra cameras, which seems both unlikely and a bit early
* More cameras are probably not even needed.

If they have anything to do with electrical, my guess is they're some sort of light sensors that inputs to the 15" center screen somehow to adjust display brighness etc

 

[EinSV]

Those are not cameras for autopilot. <snip>

If they have anything to do with electrical, my guess is they're some sort of light sensors that inputs to the 15" center screen somehow to adjust display brighness etc

That's outrageous!!!!

IF, and I know how conditionals work, Tesla has already figured out that they need more sensors to achieve a screen that can adjust to different levels of light, then they LIED to every purchaser of Teslas with the old, defective screens that did not adjust to the light the way they should. In this case, I want my money back or a car that can do what I was sold.

Innovation is not inconsistent with honesty. Nor does it excuse fraud. If you are surprised or annoyed that people prefer not to be defrauded, then you don't know people very well.

Harrumph. How can I join the class action?

 

[davidc18]

Tesla has a long history of saying one thing and delivering another. There are many, many threads about the past "let downs".

 

[disagree]

Tesla has a long history of saying one thing and delivering another. There are many, many threads about the past "let downs".

That's cool.

 

[Gforce1]

Those are not cameras for autopilot.

* Look at the size and rectangular cutout, and compare it to the B-pillar. Impossibru!
* The PX2 unit (used in S/X) wouldn't have free ports for this, i.e. Tesla would have to produce another version of the ECU to fit two extra cameras, which seems both unlikely and a bit early
* More cameras are probably not even needed.

If they have anything to do with electrical, my guess is they're some sort of light sensors that inputs to the 15" center screen somehow to adjust display brighness etc

From the info I was able to find the Drive PX2 has inputs for up to 12 cameras. Current HW2 cars have 8 cameras so there should be room for more.

 

[SabrToothSqrl]

Amazing that we can drive at all with only 2, and no radar!

 

[hill]

Elon said that Model S and X will always be the technology leaders of Tesla. If this is true, we should be seeing 10 cameras in the S/X in Q2.

Bring It On! Misery loves company. just think how frustrating it would be if a 10 camera version ran without flaws while the 8 camera version hobbles alogn

.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Those are not cameras for autopilot.

* Look at the size and rectangular cutout, and compare it to the B-pillar. Impossibru!
* The PX2 unit (used in S/X) wouldn't have free ports for this, i.e. Tesla would have to produce another version of the ECU to fit two extra cameras, which seems both unlikely and a bit early
* More cameras are probably not even needed.

If they have anything to do with electrical, my guess is they're some sort of light sensors that inputs to the 15" center screen somehow to adjust display brighness etc

If we are going to go for speculation, I don't think that is likely. A light sensor for a screen would need to be put close to the screen for the best results, not outside.

My guess, if it wasn't extra cameras, are (infrared?) illuminators for the b-pillar cameras. There was some discussion about if the rear cameras have enough illumination. The taillights will provide illumination, but maybe not enough (especially given the Model 3 will have smaller ones than the Model S), so it can help to add supplementary illumination.

Putting it in C-pillar avoids glare on the camera (plus they don't have to make as big a cut-out on the B-pillar).

 

[daktari]

I think it looks a bit "protoype" like. Not production ready, just testing a different location or another camera type?