HW4 sensor suite and hi-res camera updates?

[vapor trail]

Anyone have info on this? Curious of implications for every Tesla equipped with FSD built before this upgrade.

Tesla Prepares To Launch Autopilot HW4 Sensor Suite With Higher Resolution Cameras

A new leak from China shows the inner bits of the upcoming Tesla Autopilot HW4 sensor suite, rumored to launch in the next couple of weeks

www.autoevolution.com

 

[Kablooie]

Sure seems that the $15,000 paid to get full self driving would cover the cost of an upgrade. And it looks like the upgrade will be needed to have actual full self driving, which is what they paid for. If cars are not upgraded I could see a very large class action suit in the works.

 

[JulienW]

Moot point since Full Self Driving complete (even L3 )and approved in all states is likely YEARS away. So Tesla will probably be installing HW5 or higher before an upgrade is even "needed".

 

[ArchHamster]

Hmm, I wonder if that's why there was a increase from 10k to 15k in around 2021, to cover the cost of upgrading old hw3 when hw4 releases.

 

[legendsk]

Moot point since Full Self Driving complete (even L3 )and approved in all states is likely YEARS away. So Tesla will probably be installing HW5 or higher before an upgrade is even "needed".

HW493?

 

[aronth5]

Hmm, I wonder if that's why there was a increase from 10k to 15k in around 2021, to cover the cost of upgrading old hw3 when hw4 releases.

Perhaps the high cost reflects the need for Tesla to help cover the cost to upgrade owners who bought FSD for $3k. That was the case for my first Telsa a M3.

 

[Kablooie]

Perhaps the high cost reflects the need for Tesla to help cover the cost to upgrade owners who bought FSD for $3k. That was the case for my first Telsa a M3.

Which may mean that once the system is actually driving on it's own and most older cars had been upgraded, the price could drop because they wouldn't need to cover retrofitting more cars.

 

[heapmaster]

I wonder what they will charge for a FSD hw retrofit when your a monthly subscriber

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

I’m wondering if the new radar will plug into the pigtail with connector under the frunk labeled “no radar, US” on the vision only cars?

 

[KArnold]

I'm still expecting a "free" upgrade on my camera-less legacy MS if that hardware is needed for FSD as promised many, many times.

It's one thing to make an aspirational statement. It's quite another to charge money for a feature described in great detail but not yet delivered.

Now, about the flying car I'm aspirationally developing - it too can be ordered today for a mere $15k - you already have all of the necessary hardware to make it work. Get yours before FOMO kicks in and the assured massive price increases coming soon. PM for details.

 

[pdx_m3s]

I wonder what they will charge for a FSD hw retrofit when your a monthly subscriber

Chances of a HW4 retrofit to the existing fleet hover around zero.

 

[James-R10]

Chances of a HW4 retrofit to the existing fleet hover around zero.

For those that paid upfront for FSD they will have to or they will be paying out more in legal fees and damages than the cost to retrofit.

Even most cars from early model 3 onwards were promised with full self driving hardware included so the majority of Tesla owners could sue without a free upgrade. Just no one has tested it in court yet unless those that paid for FSD package

 

[pdx_m3s]

For those that paid upfront for FSD they will have to or they will be paying out more in legal fees and damages than the cost to retrofit.

Even most cars from early model 3 onwards were promised with full self driving hardware included so the majority of Tesla owners could sue without a free upgrade. Just no one has tested it in court yet unless those that paid for FSD package

May the odds be ever in your favor.

 

[KArnold]

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Agreed. And they don't get any odder than Elon.

 

[JulienW]

For those that paid upfront for FSD they will have to or they will be paying out more in legal fees and damages than the cost to retrofit......

Tesla won't say that HW4 is NEEDED and they will continue working on FSD for HW3. All Tesla has to do is eventfully reach L3 on HW3. Could be HW4 will be better suited at eventually achieving L4.

No matter what Tesla doesn't have to do ANYTHING for probably several years since there is NO full self driving on HW4 to contest.

 

[dgatwood]

HW493?

You misspelled HW420.

 

[JulienW]

Well Elon just said it on the earnings call and upgrading HW3 to HW4 is a no go. He said HW3 will be good enough.

 

[EVNow]

Well Elon just said it and upgrading is a HW 3 to HW4 is a no. HW3 will be good enough.

Yes - not economically feasible.

 

[kabin]

Well Elon just said it on the earnings call and upgrading HW3 to HW4 is a no go. He said HW3 will be good enough.

That sucks. The HW4 suite will be so much different I guess it makes sense. I feel bad for those folks that paid $15k for HW3.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Well Elon just said it on the earnings call and upgrading HW3 to HW4 is a no go. He said HW3 will be good enough.

Not surprising.
Good enough for what?