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Hydrogen Fuel Station Problems

Discussion in 'Cars and Transportation' started by caddieo, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. caddieo

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    #1 caddieo, Jul 26, 2015
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    I just read an online article on venturebeat.com/2015/07/25/california-fuel-cell-car... It seems that a lot of the early hydrogen fuel car drivers are having considerable difficulties refueling their cars as many stations are either malfunctioning, shut down, and sometimes low on fuel. The car makers have no control over them as they are independently owned and operated. Credit Musk for having the genius to conceive of and establish the Supercharger network. Whatever deficiencies it has pale in comparison to ones the hydrogen fuel network is experiencing.
     
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    It's been said before, there are so many problems with hydrogen, not to mention the possibility of leaks and invisible fires (because hydrogen has an invisible flame).

    The Tesla Supercharger network is such a great alternative I think, and you have excellent efficiency gains over what can be done with hydrogen.
     
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    Before Tesla came along people were saying a lot of the things Tesla did were impossible. I won't rule out the ability of the car companies to turn around the hydrogen fuel problems. However, I think the hidden costs with hydrogen fuel will remain and I think the overall costs will still be higher than for BEVs.

    If the costs are hidden well enough, the public can still be conned into it. The US is still making ethanol from corn, even though it costs more per gallon than fossil fuel gasoline. Most people don't realize the ethanol blends are more expensive than straight up gasoline because non-blended fuel is impossible to find in most places now.

    I was skeptical about BEVs a couple of years ago. If someone back then had told me I would be saving up for a Tesla in 2015, I would have told them they were nuts. The Supercharger network is the innovation I didn't see. It still takes longer to "refuel" a Tesla than an ICE car, but the tradeoff is the "fuel" is free! It's probably better for me to have a half hour stretching my legs on a long trip anyway. My natural inclination is to keep going and I pay for it the next day more and more as time goes on.
     
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    Further evidence that 'Fool' Cells are nothing more than FUD to keep ICE alive just a little longer; A joke.... but the worst kind of joke... the kind that's not at all funny and gets people killed by prolonging our addiction to petroleum.

    Toyota and Hyundai should be ashamed...
     

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