I bit the bullet and bought a .... Volt.

[Jopo43]

I am so sorry for you.....

 

[pilotSteve]

Nice Plane there Pilot Steeve, Which one is it? Do you fly that ?

Not now but did so for eight years. Citation 560. Thanks!

 

[Az_Rael]

Mine was 2014, never found that setting and was told by the dealer that it could not be changed. Wish I still had it to look.

For me it was a killer, since most of my drive is in stop and go traffic (17 miles can take an hour) and the idleing engine meant I was putting gas in every other week which was very very annoying.

I had a 2014 Volt and I could set the ERDTT to "low temperature" which was I think 25 degrees F instead of 35 degrees.

 

[Saghost]

I had a 2014 Volt and I could set the ERDTT to "low temperature" which was I think 25 degrees F instead of 35 degrees.

Early cars (2011, most 2012) were fixed at 25F. Later cars (last few 2012s, all newer) can set either 15F or 35F.

It's all based on Outside air temperature, which is easily spoofed by kits available on EBay and elsewhere with seemingly no other effects.

 

[GSP]

I use a resistor to spoof my outside air temperature sensor on my 2014 Volt. It defeats ERDTT, and has no ther effect except for altering the outside air temperature displayed on the dashboard. I have a switch to disconnect the resistor when it is not neeeded, so that my dash display is correct,

GSP

 

[SmartElectric]

Test drive a Volt last week. I convinced a friend who was looking at a larger gas car to try a Volt. We were both impressed!

The only negative was the front tires spinning under hard acceleration. The Tesla traction control on our rear wheel drive Model S is far superior to the GM Volt.

 

[McRat]

Test drive a Volt last week. I convinced a friend who was looking at a larger gas car to try a Volt. We were both impressed!

The only negative was the front tires spinning under hard acceleration. The Tesla traction control on our rear wheel drive Model S is far superior to the GM Volt.

I love the way they left the TC/SC settings like they are in the Corvettes, Cadillacs, and Camaros in normal mode. Want max acceleration? Stop pushing buttons, just push the pedal on the right. Lightly haze the tires for best launches.

Did the car misbehave at all under any circumstances? I've autocrossed my daughter's and son's Volts, both with factory tires and sticky tires, and found the car to be very well mannered and balanced with or without the Traction Control and Stability Control on.

They are no Corvettes, but the Volts did surprise a few entry level BMW drivers. I'd pull in to the pits and people would walk up and ask about the Volts.

 

[jbcarioca]

Traditionally I have little confidence in GM. However, I did drive an EV-1 (I lived in LA at the time) and was very impressed. Then a few acquaintances have bought Volts. All of them like them a lot, especially considering the alternatives today. Some have some minor complaints but they resemble Model S complaints in that they do not alter customer satisfaction. As it stands today I find myself recommending Leaf and Volt, mostly depending on range needed. We'll soon have better options, but not yet.

 

[Topher]

Bite the Bullet -

1. decide to do something difficult or unpleasant that one has been putting off or hesitating over.

Was this the implication you wanted to give? The Volt is a decent enough car, even for having the downsides of both ICE and EV.

Thank you kindly.

 

[hingisfan]

Chevrolet Bolt EV Available To Order Now In Canada, Arrives In A Few Weeks - Nationally By Year's End

 

[wayner]

I'm in Ontario too, and I can assure you it will not take 4 years before the car gets here...I'm not sure when you reserved but for me I'm getting in sometimes in 2018 (reserved on the first day) and everything seems to be pointing that they are on schedule to meet this delivery...The 2nd Reveal is happening in April, they will be releasing more details and options, soon after that confirmation will go through and production in august 2017 in the west...So Until Tesla confirms a delay in production i wouldn't worry about it too much...

Remember the timeline for the X, it was very late and then the first "delivery" occurred to meet the Q3-2015 deadline as in they delivered a few token cars, but it was several months later until they started delivering at any sort of volume. If I recall the first Model Xs delivered in Canada were around June of this year so the first Canadian deliveries were roughly 9 months behind the first official delivery. So using that scale and assuming that the first Model 3 "deliveries" occur in late 2017 (which will mean Dec 31, 2017) then the first Canadian Canadian deliveries would be around Sep of 2017 if the delivery isn't pushed back.

 

[wayner]

Chevrolet Bolt EV Available To Order Now In Canada, Arrives In A Few Weeks - Nationally By Year's End

I went through the config for the Bolt, added a few options like heated seats, some warning stuff and came to a cash price of $35.4k after $11,361 in Govt incentives. What does a Volt cost?

 

[SmartElectric]

The Volt in Canada will be approximately $2k more expensive for similar options compared to the Bolt.

Expect strong sales of either car in Ontario.

 

[wayner]

So why would anyone buy a Volt once the Bolt is shipping? Range anxiety?

@Phillip L - Would you have bought the Volt if the Bolt was shipping?

 

[Reeler]

Using the same rationale as the OP, I have a Bolt being shipped from the factory right now. Can't wait for the M3.

 

[Phillip L]

Bite the Bullet -

1. decide to do something difficult or unpleasant that one has been putting off or hesitating over.

Was this the implication you wanted to give? The Volt is a decent enough car, even for having the downsides of both ICE and EV.

Thank you kindly.

Bite the bullet really refers to replacing my presumed Model III purchase with the Volt. I had actually test drove it three times, and was very impressed.

 

[Phillip L]

So why would anyone buy a Volt once the Bolt is shipping? Range anxiety?

@Phillip L - Would you have bought the Volt if the Bolt was shipping?

I still would have bought the Volt because of two factors:
1) I doubt if it will hardly ever be used except for short rives, within the range of the electric battery

2) For my wife. It is not range anxiety per se, but something that I have never seen come up before in discussions but that really bothers her. For a good reason most charging spots, including Superchargers, are in more remote areas of parking lots, to avoid being "iced" but there is a problem. My wife does not feel safe in those more remote and darker areas, especially at night. Has anyone else had someone voice those concerns?

 

[Doug_G]

1) After seeing how poor Tesla is about getting things done in the time frame they state I have really huge doubts about being able to get the Model III in a reasonable time frame, say within two years in this Country. Realistically given "Tesla time" it will probably be 4 years or more.

I don't think "4 years or more" is "realistic". That's a huge exaggeration of Tesla Time. Two years would be very late.

Tesla announced they would be building their cars in the former NUMMI factory in Fremont in May 2010. In December 2012 I received my shiny new Model S. That's pretty amazing, really.

Model X was a bit of a screw-up because of the overly-aggressive addition of cool but not necessary features, especially the falcon wing doors. I always felt they were taking on too much.

Model 3 is much less ambitious than either car. The main issue is scaling up to build them in quantity. They seem to be making good progress towards that goal.

Yes, they will be late. But not years late.

 

[Phillip L]

I don't think "4 years or more" is "realistic". That's a huge exaggeration of Tesla Time. Two years would be very late.

Tesla announced they would be building their cars in the former NUMMI factory in Fremont in May 2010. In December 2012 I received my shiny new Model S. That's pretty amazing, really.

Model X was a bit of a screw-up because of the overly-aggressive addition of cool but not necessary features, especially the falcon wing doors. I always felt they were taking on too much.

Model 3 is much less ambitious than either car. The main issue is scaling up to build them in quantity. They seem to be making good progress towards that goal.

Yes, they will be late. But not years late.

My real concern would be when the Model III would be available in Canada. I figured two years from now, plus two years before I would get mine since I am down in the queue. That being said I have held onto my reservation because of two reasons... I cannot think of a more deserving company to give a 5 year interest free loan to Tesla (really excited about the cars, the storage, but especially the solar roof, which if it works out as planned in pricing as good or better than a traditional roof, means we could see virtually every roof in North America being solar in 30 to 40 years ... could be a real environmental game changer).
And who knows? Maybe a Model III could be in the works 3 or 4 years from now.

 

[wayner]

2) For my wife. It is not range anxiety per se, but something that I have never seen come up before in discussions but that really bothers her. For a good reason most charging spots, including Superchargers, are in more remote areas of parking lots, to avoid being "iced" but thre is a problem. My wife does not feel safe in those more remote and darker areas, especially at night. Has anyone else had someone voice those concerns?

I guess I can understand that, but the two superchargers that I am most familiar with, Woodstock and Grimsby, don't really suffer from that issue. The SCs are slightly out of the way but I wouldn't think they are far enough away that they create potential safety issues.

But I would argue that with non-Tesla chargers the exact opposite is often true. In the major office complexes in downtown Toronto (First Canadian Place, Brookfield Place, Adelaide Centre to name three) the chargers are generally located very close to the entrances and are A1 parking spots that you could never get unless you arrive at 6 am. Having an electric vehicle in those locations gives you premium access to the best parking spot in the most visible location.