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Interesting.
At the current rate that Elon is tweeting, there won't be anything left to announce UNLESS they are expecting even higher cost savings from the Gigafactory. This may get passed on as a higher spec base model 3 for the same $35k.
igotzzoom
Active Member
Oh how I'd love this to be the case. I'm afraid the Model 3 is going to be a conventional sedan, unless additional variants are part of "Part 2" which I kind of doubt.
SΞXY P100D
$ Trillion Musk
Better to explain using pictures. Here are examples of why some of us speculate about Model Y in Part 2 of the unveil.
In the pic below, the rightmost frame has 2 silhouettes with one of them being the already unveiled Model 3. Is this a hint of another automobile announcement in the near future?
The rightmost clay model is that of the Model 3, it seems. So what is that other clay model doing here? It's obvious that Tesla is designing two separate cars at the same time.
In the pic below, the rightmost frame has 2 silhouettes with one of them being the already unveiled Model 3. Is this a hint of another automobile announcement in the near future?
The rightmost clay model is that of the Model 3, it seems. So what is that other clay model doing here? It's obvious that Tesla is designing two separate cars at the same time.
igotzzoom
Active Member
I'd be totally pumped if the Model Y was revealed, and the Model 3 reservation was transferable.
I would completely expect your reservation would be for either choice. Can you imagine the mess if it wasn't?
McHoffa
CyberOwners
A second steering wheel that folds away for your co-pilot to take over. That would be like a spaceship.
I agree with others who are pretty certain that the part 2 is going to be filling in the blanks with the model 3, particularly regarding the control system and dashboard, which Musk has even tweeted about saying that what we've seen is not the real thing, and the real thing being "like sitting in a spaceship".
I expect Part 2 of the Model 3 unveil to fully reveal the control system and display, which has been held back specifically because it is going to be a big deal.
With Musk being such a proponent of autonomous driving, as well as state of the art functionality, with OTA updates and futureproof hardware configurations, I fully expect we'll be told that the base model, initial production model of the model 3 will be fully capable of full autonomous driving, level 5. With a stowable steering 'wheel'.
If he is confident that autonomous driving is only a few years away, there's no way he won't future proof the model 3. He will make sure the design and the hardware will be designed for autonomous driving, so that once it is ready to be rolled out over the air, the model 3 will have everything it needs, and will in fact feel that it was designed for it.
So, I envision a stowable steering system, with some form of flat space in front of the driver to act as a desk or worktop. HUD display information might well be included, but as others have said, the centre screen is sufficient.
The other big part of unveil part 2 will be the details of the AWD performance versions' specs and capabilities.
Showing how advanced, and how future-proofed the model 3 is, as well as how fast and awesome you can make it if you're willing to spend a bit more, will be the kind of reveal that Elon could expect to double or quadruple reservation numbers!
I expect Part 2 of the Model 3 unveil to fully reveal the control system and display, which has been held back specifically because it is going to be a big deal.
With Musk being such a proponent of autonomous driving, as well as state of the art functionality, with OTA updates and futureproof hardware configurations, I fully expect we'll be told that the base model, initial production model of the model 3 will be fully capable of full autonomous driving, level 5. With a stowable steering 'wheel'.
If he is confident that autonomous driving is only a few years away, there's no way he won't future proof the model 3. He will make sure the design and the hardware will be designed for autonomous driving, so that once it is ready to be rolled out over the air, the model 3 will have everything it needs, and will in fact feel that it was designed for it.
So, I envision a stowable steering system, with some form of flat space in front of the driver to act as a desk or worktop. HUD display information might well be included, but as others have said, the centre screen is sufficient.
The other big part of unveil part 2 will be the details of the AWD performance versions' specs and capabilities.
Showing how advanced, and how future-proofed the model 3 is, as well as how fast and awesome you can make it if you're willing to spend a bit more, will be the kind of reveal that Elon could expect to double or quadruple reservation numbers!
Not just a "hint", but an obvious reference to the fact that there will be a CUV version of the 3 just like there was a CUV version of the S. Elon has been pretty clear about that. What we don't know is what the timing will be of the release of the CUV 3. I don't really expect it to be at the same time as the 3 sedan because there is simply no reason for Tesla to do that given the unprecedented demand and reservation numbers for the 3 sedan. Why complicate the 3 sedan production launch by trying to build two significantly different versions of the 3 platform simultaneously? There is no compelling reason to do so that I can think of. Of course I'm not an automotive engineer...
SΞXY P100D
$ Trillion Musk
I just want to be able to choose between different models. Is this selfish reason not compelling enough?
Seriously Elon had said that the Model 3 won't look like other cars. Now I believe he's referring to the Model Y. It would really suck to have to wait an additional year or two after M3 production release. That would make it the 2019-2020 timeframe if there are no delays.
Just sayin.
SΞXY P100D
$ Trillion Musk
After listening to Elon for several years, I've learned that whenever he uses superlatives (such as "won't look like other cars") he means serious business. Mind you, he usually says stuff in an understated manner, so I wouldn't take those superlatives lightly.
I would not classify the Model 3 as not looking like other cars. But for that half-and-half clay model in the pic posted above, I would.
cpa
Active Member
From the DAI:
Many of you have mentioned this [insert appropriate noun] referred to as HUD. Google is NOT my friend. It mentions Housing and Urban Development (thank you very much; I performed HUD audits decades ago.) It also mentions the movie starring Paul Newman, Melvyn Douglas and Patricia Neal (thank you very much; I saw that movie when it was released in '63 and again on television.) Good movie, by the way.
So, I am guessing it stands for Heavy Utility Dinglearm that connects to the spline release on the concentric flummulator?
Sorry, I refuse to pore through thousands of pages of random search results which may or may not be relevant, since I have absolutely no idea what this [insert appropriate noun] is.
It would be wonderful if the smart people here would occasionally take a step back and bring us card-carrying members of the DAI up to speed with whatever the topic du jour happens to be.
May your thoughfulness be repaid in kind!
Many of you have mentioned this [insert appropriate noun] referred to as HUD. Google is NOT my friend. It mentions Housing and Urban Development (thank you very much; I performed HUD audits decades ago.) It also mentions the movie starring Paul Newman, Melvyn Douglas and Patricia Neal (thank you very much; I saw that movie when it was released in '63 and again on television.) Good movie, by the way.
So, I am guessing it stands for Heavy Utility Dinglearm that connects to the spline release on the concentric flummulator?
Sorry, I refuse to pore through thousands of pages of random search results which may or may not be relevant, since I have absolutely no idea what this [insert appropriate noun] is.
It would be wonderful if the smart people here would occasionally take a step back and bring us card-carrying members of the DAI up to speed with whatever the topic du jour happens to be.
May your thoughfulness be repaid in kind!
SΞXY P100D
$ Trillion Musk
SΞXY P100D
$ Trillion Musk
Augmented reality beats HUD so you may want to check it out. Not sure if it's possible with a car windshield.
aija SigX 649
Winged Lion
More importantly, they have access to more capital as they can borrow against future sales! They just locked in sales of roughly $6.3B in new business. 200,000 reservations x $42,000 average cost w/ options x 0.75 conversion rate. Source of capital for additional Giga factories and manufacturing plants! Chaching! EM's twitter storm probably secured an additional 50,000 pre-orders alone! Not too shabby for an opening weekend!
Huge that this got done prior to the presidential election - no telling what a new administration will do to subsidies/incentives of renewables and environmental guidelines.
ummgood
Member
That wouldn't surprise me at all. I am guessing they have 3 or 4 designs in the works right now. It takes a long time to get to the Model 3 stage. I bet they are working on new roadster, model S redesign, model X redesign, model Y design, etc...
aija SigX 649
Winged Lion
This! and perhaps the seemingly "empty" space behind the steering wheel will be the cavity in which the wheel will retract into while in autopilot. Not completely hidden, just flush with the dash and out of the way - it could spring back into place in emergency situations. The wheel would need to be oblong for this to work (fit within the hight of the dash), which the prototype certainly hinted at. Just a thought, but may not be that farfetched!
