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I do not recommend using PCA Auto Tint in Tampa, FL

Discussion in 'Florida' started by Martyk, Nov 7, 2013.

  1. Martyk

    Martyk Member

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    They installed 3M Crystalline on my windshield, with large patches that look like smeared Vaseline, redid it 3 weeks later but had similar smeared patches, and refuse to issue even a partial refund. It's now in dispute with my credit card company, and I'm driving with an impaired windshield until I find someone in Sarasota to redo it.

    Just an FYI, YMMV.
     
  2. First Impression

    First Impression Local Vendor - Florida

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    Sorry to hear about your bad experience with that company. I witnessed a guy redo the very same tint on another Tesla winshield twice in my shop and still had it wrong...I do know the MS has a tricky winshield :smile:
     
  3. Seven7

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    #3 Seven7, Nov 7, 2013
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    PM me if you want, I know a guy who works out of his house here in Sarasota that will look at it and if it can be done right, he will do it for less that anyone but I know he doesn't stock that film, he would have to special order it.
     
  4. NigelM

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    Really sorry to hear that Marty; I think I recommended them to you :redface:. I didn't have my windshield done but they did a great job on my side and rear windows.
     
  5. First Impression

    First Impression Local Vendor - Florida

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    The issue with 3M Crystalline is that it is a thicker film than any other film in the market and installing it on the windshield becomes a real headache, even those that have years of experience have a hard time doing it on the Teslas due to a curve on the upper part of the windshield. Some installers say that is almost like trying to bend a cardboard :cursing:..I don't know why they don't go with another high end brand like Huper Optik just for the windshield and eliminate those problems.
     
  6. Martyk

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    NigelM, this certainly isn't your bad, so no worries. Pete, thank you and good talking with you. Now I just need to find someone local to remove the tint and I'll be done with it. And...I can't find anyone to do that! I will keep trying but this is getting frustrating, how hard can it be just to have the film removed?
     
  7. NigelM

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    Good news: Tampa service center is now doing tinting, including windscreen. I talked with Mark yesterday and he talked me through the difficulties of putting tint on the windscreen, but they've done a few now and it's going well. I already have 3M Color Stable on my sides and rear windows, Tampa will put Crystalline on the windscreen this week.

    Marty, it's worth giving Mark a call and see if he can remove your tint. I'll be happy to show what Tampa manages to do when I get my car back after the weekend.
     
  8. ProfessorSW

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    Any recommendations in the area for the people who will be using the new Longwood-Orlando site?
     
  9. Madartist

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    #9 Madartist, Nov 14, 2013
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    I just discovered this thread and want to provide another data point for other Florida Tesla owners regarding the tinting options in Tampa.

    My Tesla was the car that Pete spoke about earlier in this thread. I had 3M Crystalline applied to the entire car (front, back, side, and pano) at the Tampa Service Center. To my knowledge, the installer applied the 3M film twice to the front windshield while at the SC because the first one failed. In spite of the redo, my delivery specialist noticed a few large bubbles in the middle of the front windshield prior to delivery. I also saw a very noticeable ½ inch gap between the tint film and the top edge of the front windshield. This, of course, prompted the need to reinstall again. As Pete witnessed, the tint installer apparently applied the film two more times while in Pete's detailing shop. The final tint job was still unsatisfactory: residual glue marks, streaks, and small bubbles. Even more disturbing was seeing linear cut marks on the edges of the windshield, which resulted from the installer cutting the film directly on the glass. The side window edges were also jagged and uneven. They offered to redo the windshield yet another time, but I declined because I was unconvinced that they could do any better and perhaps, make it even worse.

    In contrast, PCA Precision Car Audio and Window Tinting applied the same 3M film to our first Model S and did a fantastic job. They laser cut the 3M film from a pre-made template. The result was superior all around. We did not see any bubbles under the film and all the edges were sharp and even. I wished we had gone back to them for the second car. At the time, I simply thought that it was more convenient to have the tint applied at the SC so that I wouldn't have to wait at PCA for several hours on a separate trip.

    I think the take home point is that the quality of the tinting job depends on the skill of the installer!
     
  10. brianman

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    If you're willing, I'd like to hear pricing information for both the Tesla version and the PCA version. Thanks.
     
  11. Madartist

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    The pricing was similar for both. IIRC, the SC charged $950 and PCA was about $50 cheaper. With this small difference, pricing was not the major determining factor in my choice. Convenience was.
     
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    That is a shame, PCA did 3M Color Stable on my side and rear windows as well, beautiful job. The windshield must be difficult...
     
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    That's quite a road trip if you're thinking of getting yours done here. ;-)
     
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    Which 3M Crystalline did you guys get on your windshield? My installer discouraged me from getting 90 because he said it was too stiff to put on cleanly, so I went with the 70 which he said was much easier.
     
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    #15 Madartist, Nov 15, 2013
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    The SC would not install anything but Crystalline 90 on the windshield due to the legal restrictions. 70 is obviously slightly darker than 90, but I don't think it impairs visibility much, if at all. 70 does add noticeably more heat resistance and glare reduction (see this comparison chart here). I personally would have preferred 70 if they were willing to install it.
     
  16. Larry Chanin

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    Hi Steve,

    Thanks for your observations. I'm still in the process of deciding what to do and your input is very helpful.

    In the sentence quoted above I assume you meant to say that the service center would not install Crystalline 70 rather than 90. Correct?

    Thanks.

    Larry
     
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    Hi Larry,

    Yes, I meant to say SC would not install Crystalline 70. Updated post above. Thanks!
     
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    A colleague of mine (who also just bought a Tesla) in FL had it done through Autosupershield. He is extremely picky and the tint came out with excellent results.
     
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    It might be worth contacting 3M. They only sell to authorized installers and have a vested interest in proper installation.
     
  20. brianman

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    Hehe. Mostly curious to see how Tesla's doing on their pricing.
     

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