I sure hope it is. Otherwise the guy who just installed mine put it upside down!It's upside down, no? Ground should be up.
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I sure hope it is. Otherwise the guy who just installed mine put it upside down!It's upside down, no? Ground should be up.
I'm just pissed how some electricians think they can rip you off. Most people are clueless about electrical stuff and scared of it's dangers so they blindly accept whatever the 'expert' says.
What a load of FUD. Getting the permit and inspection is all he's required to do to satisfy liability insurance requirements.... And just an FYI: if your house does catch fire because of an overloaded feeder, good luck getting the city or whatever jurisdiction inspected it to take responsibility for your installation. And hope your insurance company doesn't know you post on this forum.
It's upside down, no? Ground should be up.
Experiment: Get a quote telling the electrician that it is for a Tesla and get another quote from another electrician saying you need for a welder.
What a load of FUD. Getting the permit and inspection is all he's required to do to satisfy liability insurance requirements.
Can anyone provide proof for an insurance company not paying a claim, because, there was no permit for work done? If they don't inspect the house, before, insuring it, they don't know what they are insuring. I have never seen a house that is completely to code and most have work that was done without a permit. As a mater of fact, insurance companies are guilty of having work done without permits all the time. I have had three different insurance companies, arrange and pay for repairs on two house on three different occasions and there was never a permit.
Great thread! Glad you did it yourself and had no problems. I've done more and more myself as I've learned from doing and from reading this forum. Its hard to find a reasonable electrician - when I first got my Volt in 2011 I was scammed into buying an entirely new breaker box! Its just like car mechanics and everything else - finding a good honest tradesman is extremely difficult, and its getting worse, at least in my experience. Your example of a $200 dollar difference between 30 amp and 50 amp when the distance was 2 ft is a perfect example. Again, fantastic post!
Playing devils advocate most tradesmen will charge some standard rate for a job no matter how hard or easy the job is, the $200 difference between 30amp and 50amp was probably a basic difference they charge because of material price difference based on some standard length run. I'll bet this was a larger electrical company and the estimator was quoting their published rates. If you were talking to a solo licensed electrician I'm sure there would have been some more accurate pricing and wiggle room on the quote.What upset me is that he hardly looked at what would really be required, what the amount of work really was in my case. Instead he pulled out a binder with standard price quotes. There was a $200-300 difference between a 30 Amp and 50 Amp installation. That makes no sense if you need a total of 3 feet of cables. He didn't even take the inside cover off the panel to see what is really hooked up and how to put the wires through the wall. He quoted me the prices without much looking. Only after I asked, 'hey is there even enough room for another 50 Amp breaker' he jumped on the $1300 extra for the sub panel and re-wiring. If he comes out to a house to make a quote I expect him to look at what amount of work actually needs to be done, not just standard prices. I expect him to give me options and alternatives. He didn't even see (or maybe he didn't want to see) the free slot.
Had he given me a fair quote based on the actual work he needs to do and given me some alternatives, I would have just hired him on the spot. I was busy with so many other things moving. But because he didn't, I looked closer myself and saw there is a very simple and perfectly safe solution I could easily do myself.