I sold my 2018 Gen 2 Volt when I got my M3. The Gen 1 & 2 Volts I had were nothing short of amazing, but they don’t compare to the Tesla UI/UX (User Interface/Experience).
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I feel terrible for GM Bolt owners as a former Volt owner
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usna92
On order LR3 - Midnight Silver - Black -18"
My Bolt is parked away from the house currently and we only charge when getting close to the 70mi lower limit, with charge state limited to 80%. Talked with the regional service rep, they “expect” to start shipping batteries to dealers by the 14th. GM apparently has some sort of triage protocol for which cars get rebuilt first, but that part of the “plan” is not public apparently. If my wife didn’t love the car, it would already be buyback city, considering the reason we have it, is because GM bought back our 2019 (higher risk car) for a 2021 (No risk at the time) car.
usna92
On order LR3 - Midnight Silver - Black -18"
Hate to tell you, it's pathetic then because that is in fact the guidance given by GM to Bolt owners (had 2, down to 1).
MontyFloyd
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Remember the EV-1!
Its like Kodak inventing the digital camera, and utterly failed to see what they had (basically, not listening to customers).
Yes, if only they'd not have sold the patents on those NiMH batteries, they'd be selling cars by with, er, well, maybe not.
Brando
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Brando
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MontyFloyd
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Its not about that car, its about the experience.
All that R&D and knowledge gained in making the EV1 went down the drain when GM dumped it.
Since then they are always playing catchup.
usna92
On order LR3 - Midnight Silver - Black -18"
For what you get, once they finish messing with MSRP playing with the EV Tax Credit, the Bolt is a pretty good car. 200 BHP with a 238+ mile range proved to be a great commuter car. Note a Model 3, but a decent car. The downfall, like so many other corporations in the face of disaster, is ignoring the customers that bought into their idea. Mary Barra should go all in on repairing the trust with customers, many whom have survived not one battery recall, but TWO. There shouldn't be a new or EUV rolling off the plant in Orion until all current customer are made whole, one way or the other. Actually got a call today on them attempting to setup a battery repair date for mine (though I suspect they might be under the gun to resolve my repurchase request). My wife loves her Bolt because of the small nature and commuter size. Hopefully everything the baby Tesla will be, then we can look to move on.
i think it was an OK car and i do miss CarPlay, but it was too small for me. although i'm not super fat, i am somewhat tall, and the seats in that car were just too narrow. i'm glad that i don't have it now with this battery debacle and i'm even happier that the damn thing didn't burn down my house.
the build quality of the M3 is definitely inferior but the UX experience and frequent software updates make up for that.
the build quality of the M3 is definitely inferior but the UX experience and frequent software updates make up for that.
Does anyone know the latest on the new production Bolts?
Last I heard the production lines were still shut down: GM to extend Chevrolet Bolt plant shutdown by three weeks.
Did they ever produce and ship any "fixed" Bolts?
Last I heard the production lines were still shut down: GM to extend Chevrolet Bolt plant shutdown by three weeks.
Did they ever produce and ship any "fixed" Bolts?
tengtengvn
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The Volt is a great car. GM puts a hard limited so you can't fully charge or fully drain its battery. 52 miles is great for around town. I took it to campgrounds, mountains, a lot of road trips. Put 40k miles on it in 4 years without a single problem. I just sold it. Due to the high resale value right now and the 9k tax credit, I essentially only paid TTL for it.
If they make a PHEV with 100+ miles range, I will absolutely buy one over any BEV.
Brando
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interesting idea - SuperCharger could "run some tests" ?? Will be interesting to see how SuperCharging for most will develop. Holland & Norway to start.
Only the courtesy vehicles that the above refers to AFAIK.
GM won’t make new Bolt EVs until at least late January 2022 was semi-recent news.
On the more positive side, quite a few people more people have gotten their pack replaced or have been flipped to the 881 recall where there's no longer REMEDY NOT YET AVAILABLE, including surprisingly me. In other words, dealer can order a replacement pack for your VIN. My '19 Bolt is a US-made pack, not a Korean pack so I figured I'd be waiting 6+ months, maybe year+
This presents some more complications for me as I'm near the end of the buyback phase:
Repurchase timeline survey has a table of the various phases people are/were in. Two different folks no FB groups are asserting that if I take the replacement pack, my buyback case will be closed or denied, so I'm not doing that yet.
Brando
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Bob Lutz and GM exec management:
2016:
2021, now that TSLA is the most valuable auto manufacturer by far:
What Bob's not saying is that GM and Mary are the true Tesla killers and has Elon quaking in his shoes. Elon is only taking down the Germans so he won't have to face GM. Elon and Tesla will surely surrender when he finally has to confront GM.
www.teslarati.com
2016:
2021, now that TSLA is the most valuable auto manufacturer by far:
What Bob's not saying is that GM and Mary are the true Tesla killers and has Elon quaking in his shoes. Elon is only taking down the Germans so he won't have to face GM. Elon and Tesla will surely surrender when he finally has to confront GM.
Elon Musk scares Mercedes-Benz and BMW: former GM and Ford exec Bob Lutz
Veteran automotive executive Bob Lutz recently revealed in a statement to the Financial Times that German luxury automakers Mercedes-Benz and BMW are afraid of Tesla CEO Elon Musk. Lutz’s statements were included in an article awarding Elon Musk with the Financial Times‘ Person of the Year...
www.teslarati.com
MontyFloyd
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Just proves how idiotic top management is, seems to be an affliction to 95% of top management all over world (remember Behr Sterns and Lehman Brothers?)
GM had the chance with the EV1, the success of Hybrids proved there was a market for efficiency chasers.
Ignored.
buh buy.
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