Atari2600
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Guess you never had a VW Jetta with a 2005-2008 DSG transmission. That left a lot of people stranded, including me, way before 50,000 miles.
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I miss my car.
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I had a 1999.5. First year of gen IV. Freaking nightmare but somehow never stranded.
EV-lutioin
Active Member
Please provide evidence for "huge drive unit failure rate". Where did you get your data?
dgpcolorado
high altitude member
Oh come on! Noisy drive units on early Model S cars had nothing whatsoever to do with rare drive unit failures that leave people stranded. You are painting with too broad a brush to suit your view that drive unit failures are common. They are not.
If you want something to obsess over, I'd worry about MCU failures. That is a serious inconvenience in the S because the car won't charge. Might be similar in the 3.
iwannam3
Active Member
Model 3 has an oil filter that wasn't in X or S. Perhaps it is there to prevent DU failures in the Model 3
umair239
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Very sorry my dude. But you see you are not Kim from Like Tesla or Marques Brown for Tesla to give you time of the day. I feel very disappointed to see stories like these when there are famous YouTubers getting server priorities and getting their cars back within 24hrs. Yes, yes, I know there has been one other story of same day delivery in Atlanta but who is to say it's also not posted by Like Tesla people to use it as a case for Tesla treats everyone the same way. This is beyond filthy. I am sorry you have to be on the receiving end of this crap.
I am scheduled to pick up my P3D on 26th and hoping everything goes well and I don't run into issues like yours. Hopefully, you get yiur vehicle asap
Yeah i had my drive unit replaced. Was only without my car for 3 days. And i dont run a youtube channel. Mine never failed, it just made a weird noise and they proactively replaced it.
One guy.
any sources besides people on TMC?
Any official sources or numbers besides TMC? Do a poll, the majority of people have never had a drive unit replaced. Stop making up things.
One guy.
any sources besides people on TMC?
Any official sources or numbers besides TMC? Do a poll, the majority of people have never had a drive unit replaced. Stop making up things.
The below Model S drivers each have had 7+ replacements.
Drive Unit Replacement Poll
6th drive unit replacement and more
Drive Unit Replacement Poll
One guy.
In a poll that doesn't have "no replacement" as an option is not exactly an accurate gauge. Even in those polls, most had only 1 replacement.
Out of how many Model S Tesla has built? 290k encounting?
If you tally all the Model S owners on the TMC, thats still less than 1% of owners that have had a drive unit replacement. Hardly a "common occurrence."
In fact, so uncommon Tesla feels confident in discontinuing drive unit fluid replacement in the maintenance plans and have done so for the last year or so. Now why would they stop servicing the drive unit if it was prone to problems? so weird.
I bet i can go on a VW forum and find a guy who had an automatic transmission replaced 6+ times too.
Not all 290K or whatever Model S drivers are all here on TMC. Even if they all were, not all of them are reporting DU replacements when they happen.
From Two Thirds of Early Model S Drivetrains May Fail By 60,000miles from Dec 2015:
Edmunds had their Model S DU replaced 3 times (2013 Tesla Model S Long-Term Wrap-Up | Edmunds). 1st was for noise. 2nd was for total failure. 3rd was for noise again.
I haven't watched all of
you're talking about previous build DUs. Didn't tesla redesign the DU for the Model S recently.
Surveys on failures are always loaded with confirmation bias. People with cars that run normally are not going to go find a poll to answer.
Surveys on failures are always loaded with confirmation bias. People with cars that run normally are not going to go find a poll to answer.
I’m glad I don’t even have to respond to those asking for proof. The proof is out there. Of course I can’t prove the actual failure rate because I can’t talk to the owners of all 250,000 Teslas that have been sold. However, it’s clearly more of an issue than it should be. I actually hope you are right and I never have to deal with it but I wouldn’t be surprised if I do have to at some point.
IIRC, revision -Q is the latest and maybe -P for performance models? I forget when -Q's started being included but I believe it was by around 2015 (What to do when Tesla refuses to make warranty repair, 2014 S85 getting new drive unit and Drive Unit failure symptoms and thresholds for replacement).
I've pointed out at Official Tesla Model S thread - Page 348 - My Nissan Leaf Forum a few examples of total DU failures after revision -Q had been shipping. I know have and can find more.
I've been active on mynissanleaf since mid-2011. I cannot think of a single time a motor/gearbox assembly on a Leaf has been replaced due to complete failure. It is extremely rare for them to be replaced for any reason (e.g. noise). I can think of fewer than 5 instances of anyone needing a motor/gearbox replacement on a Leaf posted on MNL or any other Leaf FB group I'm on.
This is a sharp contrast with what I've seen on TMC.
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Fair enough, but the im sure the Leaf forums are littered with a lot of reports of premature battery failure/degradation. So while its not the same issue, every car has their thing.
It’s great that Tesla at least warrants both the battery and drive unit for 8 years. I just hope to have this car for 10-15 years so don’t really want to pay for drive unit replacement out of pocket (what is the cost anyway? $5-8k?). This is my most expensive car ever by twice as much so I can’t just go buying a new one every 5-8 years.
Probably because there have already been failures and they are still made by Tesla after all.
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