I never have to touch the wheel in NoA or FSD Beta

[doct89]

So when I first picked up my car, August 2020, the steering wheel was at a pretty obvious angle while the car was driving straight. Tesla service performed an alignment and that fixed it, but since that alignment I’ve never had to touch the steering wheel while in NoA, and the same with fsd beta. I can confidently say that I can drive through city traffic for miles and drive hours on the highway without a single hand prompt. When the car changes lanes, there is a brief blue flash then the car changes lane without me touching the wheel.
I’ve reported it to service multiple times and across 3 different locations, but the service appointment gets canceled and I’m told I need to read the manual…”the car knows when you are paying attention and only alerts for hand use when you are not”.
My concern is that with Tesla now being able to detect cheat devices, they will think I have one installed and kick me out of beta and maybe risk my fsd package.

Tesla now detects Autopilot cheating devices

Tesla is now starting to detect Autopilot cheating devices that enable you not to hold the steering wheel and it is acting on it if you use it.

electrek.co

Should I waste more of my time trying to get service to take my concern seriously? Or should I be happy I have a unicorn with a steering issue that will never need wheel torque?

 

[joenathan]

I would kill to be you.

 

[ElectricIAC]

So when I first picked up my car, August 2020, the steering wheel was at a pretty obvious angle while the car was driving straight. Tesla service performed an alignment and that fixed it, but since that alignment I’ve never had to touch the steering wheel while in NoA, and the same with fsd beta. I can confidently say that I can drive through city traffic for miles and drive hours on the highway without a single hand prompt. When the car changes lanes, there is a brief blue flash then the car changes lane without me touching the wheel.
I’ve reported it to service multiple times and across 3 different locations, but the service appointment gets canceled and I’m told I need to read the manual…”the car knows when you are paying attention and only alerts for hand use when you are not”.
My concern is that with Tesla now being able to detect cheat devices, they will think I have one installed and kick me out of beta and maybe risk my fsd package.

Tesla now detects Autopilot cheating devices

Tesla is now starting to detect Autopilot cheating devices that enable you not to hold the steering wheel and it is acting on it if you use it.

electrek.co

Should I waste more of my time trying to get service to take my concern seriously? Or should I be happy I have a unicorn with a steering issue that will never need wheel torque?

Our P3D did exactly the same thing after an alignment at the SC.

I would say, don’t question it.

 

[Dewg]

Enjoy it, but do so responsibly.

 

[RoBoRaT]

I wonder what is the Steering Offset on your car. Mind checking via the in-car Service Mode?

 

[ElectricIAC]

I wonder what is the Steering Offset on your car. Mind checking via the in-car Service Mode?

Hey, how do you get to that menu??

 

[RoBoRaT]

Hey, how do you get to that menu??

Put car in Service Mode: Car menu; Software: Touch/hold the "Model x" until it flashes; Enter "service".

BAM! Service Mode

The Steering Offeset is under Alignment (shocks icon).

@doct89

 

[doct89]

Put car in Service Mode: Car menu; Software: Touch/hold the "Model x" until it flashes; Enter "service".

BAM! Service Mode

The Steering Offeset is under Alignment (shocks icon).

@doct89

Steering offset in the service menu looks good to me.

 

[RoBoRaT]

Steering offset in the service menu looks good to me.

You must have KiTT, the OG FSD rider. That's a keeper!

 

[doct89]

You must have KiTT, the OG FSD rider. That's a keeper!

Until Tesla bans me from FSD. But I’ll enjoy it while it lasts. Not like I didn’t try and tell them!

 

[nvx1977]

Until Tesla bans me from FSD. But I’ll enjoy it while it lasts. Not like I didn’t try and tell them!

If it really concerns you, then just keep a hand on the wheel with some light torque. Advisable for Boston anyway because you never know when some masshole or myself cuts you off.

 

[MobileClimate]

Where’s the can data ?? You can see the steer angle live ..it’s not that difficult one cable and a Bluetooth obd2 device I find it very interesting and better than guessing

 

[Silicon Desert]

Our P3D did exactly the same thing after an alignment at the SC.

I would say, don’t question it.

Why can't I be so lucky. You folks must be special.

 

[doct89]

Whelp it started happening on 2022.44.25.5. Scheduled a service appointment let’s see what they say.

 

[Sohrab]

Whelp it started happening on 2022.44.25.5. Scheduled a service appointment let’s see what they say.View attachment 896080

Do you have any updates on this?
Started for me after alignment in service center!

 

[doct89]

Yes! They replaced the fsd computer, infotainment computer, did an alignment, and replaced the steering wheel sensor. None of that fixed it. They eventually replaced the entire steering rack and that solved it. They said that there was a lot of wear on the steering rack which caused the problem. That was strange to hear, since it had been doing this since I drove the car off the lot…

Keep in mind that they wouldn’t believe me and I had to insist multiple times that they do a drive along. Otherwise they kept saying that I “should always have hands on the wheel when autopilot is active”. None of the techs had yet to see anything like it. They even called my car a unicorn since I never needed to touch the wheel.

Hope this helps.