buttershrimp
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Sorry no, I meant to say a HW2.0 car with MCU1 getting an FSD Computer without upgrading to MCU2 or HW2.5?
I retrofit MCU2, IC2, Tuner2, and FSD Computer into my HW2.0 Car
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Ah, I see. It's possible to do but Tesla does not yet officially do it.
SucreTease
Teslarian
This is just bare-faced FUD. Anyone could play the game you are playing with any outcome that might be possible. Sure, it's also possible that an asteroid could strike the Earth and wipe out humanity, too. Or that Elon will be hit by a bus. Or that you are a bot or Russian troll that posts wild-ass conjecture to cause worry in others...
Other than Tesla has a history of ending retrofits/upgrades. Like the BioWeapon defense mode upgrade on the Model X that they offered for a while and stopped. So there is a possibility that they could decide to end the upgrade at some point.
The other factor is how long we'll be keeping a vehicle purchased over 3 years ago.
Our current plan is to trade-in our 2017 S (MCU1/AP2) for a Cybertruck - so the amount of time we'd get any benefit from the Infotainment Upgrade makes it harder to justify spending $2500 and lose the radio - which we use for almost every drive.
Our current plan is to trade-in our 2017 S (MCU1/AP2) for a Cybertruck - so the amount of time we'd get any benefit from the Infotainment Upgrade makes it harder to justify spending $2500 and lose the radio - which we use for almost every drive.
buttershrimp
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Hey green! I have a code question? do you see anything in the code that is causing rather large forced reductions in range by firmware? For instance my range dropped from 311 miles at 36,000 miles to 295 at 40,000 miles and it seems to coincide with vehicle fires and firmware nannying...
Any indication if these are real versus forced? Curious too if tesla is keeping battery in reserve hidden within the code to prevent users from pushing it all the way to 0 or to discourage owners from pushing their recharge limits into the slow Supercharging territory that goes with pushing beyond the 90% threshold?
My current theory is that it’s Tesla’s way of making us spend less time a supercharger, preventing battery fires or drastically lowering charge rate or a secret attempt to make me have Flaccid charging issues or EV dysfunction that is associated with the natural aging process (I’m asking for a friend I know, not me of course)
NoMoGas
Supporting Member
Great write up. It's got me pondering the upgrade as a whole. If you get any the new software updates, how are you finding the drive comparative to the MCU1/AP2.0? The tuner issue is making me think twice since I listen to the radio a fair bit but I've got no idea of how the 2 different configurations work comparatively.
Mcu2/ic2 doesn't change driving dynamics at all. The FSD computer (ape3) doesn't seem to change autopilot driving for me yet, though rolling out today is 2020.12.6 which supposedly does stoplight and stop sign reactions - not sure that'll change driving dynamics though compared to ape2.0
Kdday,
Kudos on your work. I've been looking for someone that has gone through this kind of work, though my aim is a bit different. I owned a Model X 75D 2018, and got it replaced for the performance Model X 2020. I was able to do all the work on the car as previous, except for this one critical matter -- Aux-in through AM/FM Radio. Considering the huge difference in sound quality being wired vs bluetooth, this is a must have, but I found no way to do it now with the Tuner2 (SOP6 on the wiring diagram, where 2018 model had SOP5 where AM/FM Tuner had an analog out to the center unit).
The question is, is that analog wiring still at the back of the center console? Can I go from Tuner2 to Tuner1? Do you have any suggestions to get access to analog line in through the radio as before?
Thanks in advance.
(the work on vehicle, though much are pics of the 2018 X, is at teslaxsur.com)
Kudos on your work. I've been looking for someone that has gone through this kind of work, though my aim is a bit different. I owned a Model X 75D 2018, and got it replaced for the performance Model X 2020. I was able to do all the work on the car as previous, except for this one critical matter -- Aux-in through AM/FM Radio. Considering the huge difference in sound quality being wired vs bluetooth, this is a must have, but I found no way to do it now with the Tuner2 (SOP6 on the wiring diagram, where 2018 model had SOP5 where AM/FM Tuner had an analog out to the center unit).
The question is, is that analog wiring still at the back of the center console? Can I go from Tuner2 to Tuner1? Do you have any suggestions to get access to analog line in through the radio as before?
Thanks in advance.
(the work on vehicle, though much are pics of the 2018 X, is at teslaxsur.com)
Thanks for the response.
Any suggestions on how i may get direct audio input to center console somehow? Some thoughts:
1. If analog connections are still available in center console, tap into that... but i think you are saying that is not possible (i imagine it is bc sw recognizes tuner2 config and will no longer accept the analog signals...)
2. Any way to use that two-wire "ethernet" signal to emulate audio signals? I actually thought this was a standard spdif signals and tried various brands of spdif output and concluded it was some proprietary tesla signal, but learning it is ethernet, i wonder if there are ways to tap into that.
3. Any other thoughts?
The aux-in is important for audiophiles. We need to solve this. =)
Any suggestions on how i may get direct audio input to center console somehow? Some thoughts:
1. If analog connections are still available in center console, tap into that... but i think you are saying that is not possible (i imagine it is bc sw recognizes tuner2 config and will no longer accept the analog signals...)
2. Any way to use that two-wire "ethernet" signal to emulate audio signals? I actually thought this was a standard spdif signals and tried various brands of spdif output and concluded it was some proprietary tesla signal, but learning it is ethernet, i wonder if there are ways to tap into that.
3. Any other thoughts?
The aux-in is important for audiophiles. We need to solve this. =)
Do you happen to have pic of back of mcu? Im wondering if mcu2 has a different set of inputs/outputs. One thing i saw in the new electric diagram (SOP6) is a new connector x176, where previous (2018 SOP5) did not have that, but rather x170 with the analog signals. However, the new diagram with tuner2 (SOP6) still shows x170 is there.
If you have, i would like to verify existence of x170 and if there is a new input/plug for x176.
If you have, i would like to verify existence of x170 and if there is a new input/plug for x176.
Waldek
Member
Kdday,
I am making a digital FM/XM radio harness for MCU. Maybe you covered this, but do you think using the “sx-updater” and “factory redeploy” after a new MCU2 is installed and I connect the digital radio to it via the harness would work? Is the best way to get on the network through the hardware Ethernet (I thought was disabled) or wi-if?
Thank you,
Sperlaky
I am making a digital FM/XM radio harness for MCU. Maybe you covered this, but do you think using the “sx-updater” and “factory redeploy” after a new MCU2 is installed and I connect the digital radio to it via the harness would work? Is the best way to get on the network through the hardware Ethernet (I thought was disabled) or wi-if?
Thank you,
Sperlaky
Tuner will not work, even if you add it and physically wire it, unless you modify the Tuner configuration setting in the Gateway. Only way to do that (that I know of) is with root access that is hard to come by. So no, wiring it won’t help. Gotta enable the functionality within gateway AND have tuner wired for it to work.
scottf200
Active Member
Kdday and others helped with this page where the configuration info is too.
tuner | Search Results | TeslaTap
