Making the pre-refresh S and X “Legacy software” which will not get full updates kind of makes you have to buy a new car to get all of the features. That for cars as new as 1 year old.
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I stopped updating at 2021.4.18 and I have FSD - you maybe should have too
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You don’t need to convince me buddy...(moderator edit) My post was for visualization related to AP not FSD/beta. Mine and my family’s safety is paramount to me so Tesla can keep their vaporware FSD for others....(moderator edit)
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diamond.g
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EVNow
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You have just stated they are pointless. Not “proved” it.
If you are just using AP on highway you are in the minority here. So, bye.
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EVNow
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Oh no - so, never…as soon as I get my FSD refund
Anyway, now I get your obsession with getting rid of visualization.
planetary
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Sounds like you bought the wrong product. Wish you the best with whatever you end up with.
I know I have already chalked it off as a charity. It’s part of my wealth distribution just like how billionaires think they are doing it now.Oh no - so, never
Anyway, now I get your obsession with getting rid of visualization.
No my hate about visualization has nothing to do with 2016 FSD scam. (moderator edit)
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smogne41
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Yeah, I would love to get rid of the visualization completely, perhaps have just have the parking version of it pop up at low speed. I would much rather use that (easy to reach) space for persistent controls (wipers, lights, etc) and the power/trip odo.
Does anybody know a 3rd party app that does a good job of replicating the the trip card info on a phone? That might be a good work-around for now for that at least.
Does anybody know a 3rd party app that does a good job of replicating the the trip card info on a phone? That might be a good work-around for now for that at least.
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Yes, visualization is invaluable if you want to use any kind of ADAS, for 1980's car features, not so much.
Ofcourse, absolutely nothing
smogne41
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I am not an ADAS person, I turn most of that off and I specifically bought my Tesla without AP back when that was possible.Yes, visualization is invaluable if you want to use any kind of ADAS, for 1980's car features, not so much.
Ofcourse, absolutely nothing
They have to be very mindful about what are the side effects of cosmetic “skins” and suuuper careful about functional and layout skins- this is a safety issue over self expression. If you hang pink fluffy dice from your rear view mirror and they block your view, regulators understand it’s a driver problem. If you skin your ui and cause a problem, regulators get wrapped around the axle if the liability is of those who were driving and chose the skin, those who installed it, those who built it, those who made the skinnable framework (Tesla) etc.
I like it that Tesla is keeping users in a lane.
Otoh, the designers at Tesla are not showing world class decisions with 11.
EVNow
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FTFY.Hahaha..you still hung up on that? That does confirm my FSD scam conspiracy theory
EVNow
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Yes - it would be nice if visualization was optional.
But I guess very few actually don't want any visualization - and they have to find other ways of showing somethings they now use visualization for (like open door etc when parked).
They may do it in the future but I think the demand is very low compared to a lot of other feature requests.
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