I have to disagree on this point. Lone Pine and Inyokern are very rural, and there are legitimate reasons to charge above 80%. On one occasion, we charged to 100% in Inyokern for a winter trip to Death Valley where we were not sure if we would be able to charge overnight. I can imagine others wanting to charge to 100% if making certain round trips to the mountains (Sierras and White Mountains) or if there is a lot of snow on the road. We also have to consider people with older Model S 60 cars who may need more than 80% just to get to Mammoth with an okay margin.
The person I saw supercharging to 95% was in a Model 3 with aero wheels. I guess I should have asked them why because I can't think of a reason. Who wants to spend an hour in their car at Inyokern in the middle of the night? Maybe require people who want to charge past 80% to go to the end of the line after getting to 80%? I assume the 80% limit will only be when the supercharger is actually congested. Hopefully they'll build superchargers in Bishop and Kramer Junction.
When there is congestion, I think it would be fair to require people to get back in line if they need more than 80%, assuming they started from below 60-70%. Perhaps Tesla could detect whether the car has been moved since Supercharging, and only allow the charge to be restarted if the car has been moved at least 10 meters or so, with a corresponding "get back in line" message on the dash.
Tesla says they'll do this in 2019. Hopefully!
That might not be true until above 90-95%, though I haven't run the numbers. On the Death Valley trip when I charged to 100% at Inyokern, I also drove more slowly than usual, as I wanted to maintain as much flexibility as possible. My backup plan was to detour to the Supercharger in Beatty, NV, but I didn't want to have to drive that far out of our way. As it turned out, we and another Model S owner were able to park in an RV campsite at Furnace Creek and charge there!
Bad idea. This is not about a local trying to take advantage of free charging. No one is interested in spending a minute longer than they have to in Inyokern. They want to get what they need, be it 70%0, 80% or 100% and get the heck out of there. It is not for someone else to decide to punish them. That would be complete torture to have someone get back in line after hitting 90%.
It's not my idea BTW. It was shown at the V3 supercharger announcement.
In more urbanized areas like Orange County, most if not all of the Superchargers should probably stop at 80%, at least whenever they're busy enough for idle fees to be applicable. That could help to reduce congestion immediately, without preventing anyone from driving anywhere.
I still vote for 80%. 80%-90% is only an average of 30kW. Maybe allow S60s and X75s to go to 90%
I still vote for 80%. 80%-90% is only an average of 30kW. Maybe allow S60s and X75s to go to 90%
Yeah, that's even worse! Tesla needs to get serious about charging idle fees. It wouldn't be hard to detect that situation.
You did the right thing to get his attention to inform him that people were waiting for an open stall.
Force the car to be moved 20 feet 60 seconds after it’s unplugged or start charging idle fees.Unfortunately, he had already unplugged, so not connected, no idle fees.
Yes, but it is possible to know if the car has been moved from the SC after finishing a charge. It is just not something currently being done.Unfortunately, he had already unplugged, so not connected, no idle fees.
Also good luck enforcing that.
This is just another reason that local/state/national ordinances need to be in place to address situations that could lead to violence. Not everyone will be so kind and patient to put up with such rude selfish behavior and it would be bad publicity if Tesla owners were beating up other Tesla owners over such BS. I would much rather see law enforcement fine/tow than personally get involved just because of a jerk.
I’m confused
