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According to @kvandivo 's signature, he has an S100D, so one wouldn't expect the same issue that some early 90 kWh packs have.
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I discovered that only works if your phone is "wide enough." I had a Moto X4 with a 1920x1080 screen. 1920 isn't wide enough to display the signatures. 2560 width on my prior Nexus 6P was OK, so the cutoff is somewhere between 1920 and 2560.
Not seeing sigs on phone in landscape mode - new phone or TMC changes?
Ditto on the ratios. Also a S100D. Probably makes sense to monitor and see if this issue starts to show up on 100 kWh packs. So far though it would seem to not be the case as others have pointed out this issue only affecting 90 kWh packs. And that it shows up rather early in life, certainly well before 9 MWh.
This is entirely speculative, but since the throttling was exposed and the troy made it to EV related news outlets, there is a chance Tesla has changed the firmware to transition into the throttling gradually so people would not notice it. It might also that they changed it to what they are doing with the 85 packs where they allow the same peak rate, but start to taper down earlier and faster, reducing the overall rate. Frankly if I was in Tesla's position I would make it that way. Anything that changes slowly and gradually won't be noticed by the user. Anything sudden will stand out.
Well after today's V3 Supercharging demonstration... it's starting to look like a battery upgrade for a lot of S owners at some point in the future if this throttling keeps up. Little did we know there was so much room for improvement!
Bighorn
Top Supercharger
Still no throttling after 230k mostly supercharged miles. I don’t know how much the 18650s can handle beyond the 120 kW though.
NerdUno
Member
Looks like your car has the "old battery" not the "new, improved battery" that self-destructs with supercharging. Count your blessings.
None of these updates will matter for us 90Kwh aka 86kwh pack anyways. We are so throttled. The only thing might help is the battery warming in cold weather, but given during road trip, the battery is warm enough after 2-3 hours of driving.
All in all a wash for us 90kwh pack. Tesla needs to offer pack upgrades before we.can make us of these v3 superchargers.
All in all a wash for us 90kwh pack. Tesla needs to offer pack upgrades before we.can make us of these v3 superchargers.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
On the plus side, you have better acceleration.... I previously had a P90D and now have a P3D. I get faster supercharging, but you have faster acceleration...
out of curiosity, what is your 90% rated range these days? what about your 100% RR?
(sorry for sort of hijacking this thread)
Elon Musk on Twitter
Now that Elon has said that *all* existing S/X cars will get improved charging speeds up to 25% via firmware update, I think it's useful to ask:
How do these changes affect the cars that have been throttled and the throttling policy? Will those cars still be throttled? Will the throttling still kick in at around the same number of fast DC charges?
Now that Elon has said that *all* existing S/X cars will get improved charging speeds up to 25% via firmware update, I think it's useful to ask:
How do these changes affect the cars that have been throttled and the throttling policy? Will those cars still be throttled? Will the throttling still kick in at around the same number of fast DC charges?
Bighorn
Top Supercharger
The battery was replaced at 197k miles at which time a range charge was 234 miles or about 11.5% down.
I would assume that the only improvement would be from battery preconditioning, and everything else would be the same. "Up to 25%" includes "1%", so set expectations accordingly.
Yeah, remember when Tesla was going to release a 300 mile range S and a car that cost 60k? Those werent the same car....
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