If you're California, the economics in favor of a solar solution will likely get worse soon

[bkp_duke]

PV Magazine has an article about NEM 3:
The net metering successor tariff ‘NEM-3’ proceeding in California has officially kicked off

Sounds like stuff is off to a slow start so they don't expect NEM 3.0 until late 2022.

Interesting take-away:

I fully expect solar companies to make up the shrinking margins on solar with the nice margins on energy storage.

 

[rdunniii]

Energy politics was the #2 reason I moved out of California. Water politics was #1. I am now worried that Nevada is following in their footsteps on both of these.

 

[charlesj]

Energy politics was the #2 reason I moved out of California. Water politics was #1. I am now worried that Nevada is following in their footsteps on both of these.

Its business. Where do you move next?

 

[getakey]

not to Florida

Florida utilities want to gut solar. Here's why - Electrek

 

[charlesj]

not to Florida

Florida utilities want to gut solar. Here's why - Electrek

Yep, one starts others will follow.

 

[rdunniii]

Its business. Where do you move next?

At 70 and very retired no longer much concerned about that

 

[CrazyRabbit]

Hopefully, as hydrogen powered fuel cell cars become the normal, we can use the excess electricity to produce hydrogen and throttle that.

 

[aesculus]

Hopefully, as hydrogen powered fuel cell cars become the normal, we can use the excess electricity to produce hydrogen and throttle that.

Actually the big opportunity for hydrogen is to convert those gas fired power plants near a water source into hydrogen. Burns about the same so conversion is next to nil. And if you convert and burn onsite you don't have the pipeline problem you would trying to move hydrogen.

But alas they are probably decommissioning these plants rather than looking to the future when solar during the daytime is cheap to create H2 and you use hydrogen based power plants during the "dark" hours.

 

[MXLRplus]

Hopefully, as hydrogen powered fuel cell cars become the normal, we can use the excess electricity to produce hydrogen and throttle that.

Hydrogen fuel cells for motor vehicle use is a stillborn tech. It has been made obsolete by the lithium battery.

A FCEV is a pure EV, except that instead of a battery, it stores 'electrons' in a hydrogen tank. The transportation and storage of H2 makes it more lossy than a Li battery. ie - more wasted electricity per mile.

It makes more sense to install fixed Fuel Cells at locations where H2 is produced. But wait! H2 is produced by steam reformation of natural gas. So it makes even less sense.

Trivia - The H2 FC powertrain in a Mirai costs roughly $50,000. Yes, they sell them at a loss.