And some people ahead of you will have selected options that delay their queue position: standard suspension, 40kWh (and maybe 60kWh) battery, or red paint (and, maybe, gray leather).
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I'm a Production, and here's my story (Sublimaze1 - P188)
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I have gray interior and my call this week said I'm still good for Nov-Dec delivery.
However, I'm not actually expecting to get my P1937 this year. But of course it would be nice!
(Reeling us all back in)
This week was bleak, in terms of reports on P188 (who, I believe has named herself Trudi).
My rep (Sean) was out toward the end of the week, and Matthew (product specialist) was out of the Palo Alto office. He was on the Factory floor, but did not answer his cell. He did, however, respond to an email stating that the VIN was not assigned as of yet (10-16)
To reply to some directed questions that were on topic, and referring to the "VIN" thread, we (forum members) have already decided that my VIN is slated to be
5 Y J S A 1 S N _ C F _ _ _ _ _ _.
or
5 Y J S A 1 S N _ C F 0 0 _ _ _ _ if you are reasonably expecting a four digit VIN as I am.
I have not gotten the final digits, as spoke of above.
Only other data (which I may have already posted) that I have is that I was assured a VIN sometime before Halloween. Halloween was not a magical date, but simply fell at the end of a window that I gave Matthew which was based on my need to finalize a piece of the financing.
Certainly, I can attempt to adjust that if we have another delay. Which brings me to point 72b: I have not been informed of any two week delay, but that makes sense, as I have not received any official delivery date. by any of the aforementioned individuals, or Armen, my delivery specialist.
Back to lurk mode, until I have something factual to post.
WJ
P188
McKinney, Texas
This week was bleak, in terms of reports on P188 (who, I believe has named herself Trudi).
My rep (Sean) was out toward the end of the week, and Matthew (product specialist) was out of the Palo Alto office. He was on the Factory floor, but did not answer his cell. He did, however, respond to an email stating that the VIN was not assigned as of yet (10-16)
To reply to some directed questions that were on topic, and referring to the "VIN" thread, we (forum members) have already decided that my VIN is slated to be
5 Y J S A 1 S N _ C F _ _ _ _ _ _.
or
5 Y J S A 1 S N _ C F 0 0 _ _ _ _ if you are reasonably expecting a four digit VIN as I am.
I have not gotten the final digits, as spoke of above.
Only other data (which I may have already posted) that I have is that I was assured a VIN sometime before Halloween. Halloween was not a magical date, but simply fell at the end of a window that I gave Matthew which was based on my need to finalize a piece of the financing.
Certainly, I can attempt to adjust that if we have another delay. Which brings me to point 72b: I have not been informed of any two week delay, but that makes sense, as I have not received any official delivery date. by any of the aforementioned individuals, or Armen, my delivery specialist.
Back to lurk mode, until I have something factual to post.
WJ
P188
McKinney, Texas
Your 12th digit will be "P". Your 7th digit will be A, B, C, or D, depending whether or not you got twin chargers and depending whether or not you got supercharging h/w. Since you have 85kWh (digit 8), it must be C or D.
Update:
I am financing a portion of the vehicle (I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread) and the bank wants to have an updated MVPA with a specific amount listed for them to finance (I am putting down money myself - in addition to the $5K 1306 days ago, and financing the rest). Whatever, right? So, this is the foundation that I work from when calling and asking questions. I sent an email with the time frames and the bank and whatnot, and I got a response as follows:
Thanks for your note and phone call. At this point, we can't produce final paperwork for you until your VIN has been assigned. Your new delivery window is 11/7 - 11/21, so I'd check back for your VIN after Halloween.
The amount that you have on file now is a preliminary amount, and the final MVPA will contain a much more final amount, in terms of tax and registration fees, etc.
Thanks for your patience and persistence!
Best,
Matt
So, a few things here:
(1) This is the first time I have been given a window (officially) of my vehicle's delivery. I will not hold my breath in believing this for a minute. It does not make sense with what all of y'all have been typing and posting.
(2) I was thanked for my persistence. So he is encouraging me. Bad move.
(3) The MVPA has a "less final amount" than what my, er, final one will? Anyone have revised MVPAs which show something different than the one they signed?
<back to lurk>
WJ
McKinney, Texas
I am financing a portion of the vehicle (I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread) and the bank wants to have an updated MVPA with a specific amount listed for them to finance (I am putting down money myself - in addition to the $5K 1306 days ago, and financing the rest). Whatever, right? So, this is the foundation that I work from when calling and asking questions. I sent an email with the time frames and the bank and whatnot, and I got a response as follows:
Thanks for your note and phone call. At this point, we can't produce final paperwork for you until your VIN has been assigned. Your new delivery window is 11/7 - 11/21, so I'd check back for your VIN after Halloween.
The amount that you have on file now is a preliminary amount, and the final MVPA will contain a much more final amount, in terms of tax and registration fees, etc.
Thanks for your patience and persistence!
Best,
Matt
So, a few things here:
(1) This is the first time I have been given a window (officially) of my vehicle's delivery. I will not hold my breath in believing this for a minute. It does not make sense with what all of y'all have been typing and posting.
(2) I was thanked for my persistence. So he is encouraging me. Bad move.
(3) The MVPA has a "less final amount" than what my, er, final one will? Anyone have revised MVPAs which show something different than the one they signed?
<back to lurk>
WJ
McKinney, Texas
timdorr
Model S P90D w/AP3.0
My guess is they want to accomodate for changes in taxes (especially if the delivery slips into 2013). The price of the car can't change (unless you change options), but the taxes can because it's outside of Tesla's control. They're just covering their asses in case the taxes/fees change by the time you get around to giving them the full amount of the car.
Exactly. Here in Georgia the tax laws on new cars changes in March 2013. So they have incorrectly estimated my taxes by about 500$.
Good morning with an interval update.
Chronologically, I was contacted on October 9th by the delivery specialist and, not completely understanding the timeline, had begun financial proceedings to purchase the car. A few lessons were learned here, and I am sure these are known to some members of this forum. No need to re-inform me
(1) The contact from the delivery specialist, despite what he says, does not indicate that you should liquidate funds or obtain financing. That trigger gets pulled later. Much later.
(2) Aside from the questionnaire that s/he sends you, be prepared not to receive anything else for weeks. Potentially a month +.
(3) When the DS calls you that first time, be specific about the timeline. He may give you dates. He may give you nebulous-ness. Pin him/her down. Don't abuse them, but simply communicate that you want information that will better enable you to organize your resources and schedule.
(4) The VIN is the key. Without it, banks generally will not finance, an updated and/or final MVPA will not be issued, and your timeline (until then) is merely speculative.
That's all I got. On to work.
WJ
Chronologically, I was contacted on October 9th by the delivery specialist and, not completely understanding the timeline, had begun financial proceedings to purchase the car. A few lessons were learned here, and I am sure these are known to some members of this forum. No need to re-inform me
(1) The contact from the delivery specialist, despite what he says, does not indicate that you should liquidate funds or obtain financing. That trigger gets pulled later. Much later.
(2) Aside from the questionnaire that s/he sends you, be prepared not to receive anything else for weeks. Potentially a month +.
(3) When the DS calls you that first time, be specific about the timeline. He may give you dates. He may give you nebulous-ness. Pin him/her down. Don't abuse them, but simply communicate that you want information that will better enable you to organize your resources and schedule.
(4) The VIN is the key. Without it, banks generally will not finance, an updated and/or final MVPA will not be issued, and your timeline (until then) is merely speculative.
That's all I got. On to work.
WJ
Sparrow
S105/ Roadster 189
For the most part it seems, Tesla hasn't been communicating the final payment amounts until as little as 24 hours in advance. I've emailed asking for wiring instructions, since my car is supposedly done and in logistics or possibly on a truck, but no response after 4 days. Phone call is now in order, but I doubt I will get any real information.
NigelM
Recovering Member
You have to be reasonable also. There are many elements beyond his/her control; even if production runs smoothly with no parts or supplier issues, there's still QC then shipping and logistics. Shipping can be affected by route (who else is getting cars delivered?), traffic and weather etc.
i write as someone who did have specifics (so specific and close that I actually paid for my car!) and then there were a series of problems (which Tesla really did their best to deal with) resulting in me actually receiving my car 4 weeks later than expected.
Good morning everyone.
Today I received a VIN. I am 1588. Things are moving in a positive direction. WJ
Today I received a VIN. I am 1588. Things are moving in a positive direction. WJ
Cool, first I've heard of a P getting a VIN. With all respect to Sigs, that makes this whole thing more real to me
Cool, first I've heard of a P getting a VIN. With all respect to Sigs, that makes this whole thing more real to me
I haven't even heard of an R (Roadster Friends and Family) getting a VIN.
Good point, I hadn't thought about that.I haven't even heard of an R (Roadster Friends and Family) getting a VIN.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
I'm sure many Rs have entered production as well. It's probably the case that sublimaze1 has been really nice to his DS and is getting proactive updates.
This probably also puts to rest - maybe?! - the theory that all Rs were going to be produced before any Ps. 1588 is very soon after the 101x US Sig VINs that we have been seeing and the < 200 CAN Sigs - not enough to accommodate all 400+ US Rs.
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Oh, and a VIN of 1588 for a sequence number P 188 suggests that Rs or atleast Ps have started at VIN 1401? Or just coincidence?
This probably also puts to rest - maybe?! - the theory that all Rs were going to be produced before any Ps. 1588 is very soon after the 101x US Sig VINs that we have been seeing and the < 200 CAN Sigs - not enough to accommodate all 400+ US Rs.
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Oh, and a VIN of 1588 for a sequence number P 188 suggests that Rs or atleast Ps have started at VIN 1401? Or just coincidence?
timdorr
Model S P90D w/AP3.0
Yep, that seems to be the logic. Are Rs mixed in with Ps for sequence number? I thought they were separately grouped.
In GeorgeB emails to Canadian Signature holders, he said:
Perhaps Tesla has decided to change their procedures, and only give us delivery information when the car is almost completed. It probably makes more sense to do it that way - less risk of unexpected schedule changes.
Perhaps Tesla has decided to change their procedures, and only give us delivery information when the car is almost completed. It probably makes more sense to do it that way - less risk of unexpected schedule changes.
timdorr
Model S P90D w/AP3.0
I'm guessing it takes them longer to ship the cars to Canada, too. So, not only could things go wrong with production, there's also more chance of things going wrong when transporting across the border. So yeah, you're right that it reduces the chance of them missing expectations.
I posted some stuff over here regarding Texas Delivery and Texas Tax issues. Might be worth your time if you are in the Lone Star State.
I have had some people PM me regarding my VIN and I thought I would post some information to answer some questions. The VIN was delivered to me in a Final MVPA. That was 90% my doing, as I have been in contact with the financial rep from TESLA to make it happen. Your experience may differ, if you go this way. But in any case, that was how it happened. I did not ask for a VIN, per se, simply discussed with them the bank's readiness to release the funds.
But this came at a price, as I threw down another chunk for downpayment. They did not take tax out. Again, read this and see what the skinny was. Either way, it is not going to speed up or slow down the creation of my vehicle - but simply is a learning experience that I am taking time to share.
I have had some people PM me regarding my VIN and I thought I would post some information to answer some questions. The VIN was delivered to me in a Final MVPA. That was 90% my doing, as I have been in contact with the financial rep from TESLA to make it happen. Your experience may differ, if you go this way. But in any case, that was how it happened. I did not ask for a VIN, per se, simply discussed with them the bank's readiness to release the funds.
But this came at a price, as I threw down another chunk for downpayment. They did not take tax out. Again, read this and see what the skinny was. Either way, it is not going to speed up or slow down the creation of my vehicle - but simply is a learning experience that I am taking time to share.
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