I have ridden motorcycles for decades, taught MSF classes in California and have trained several riders how to rode with me and the one thing I always stress is that being the first one into the intersection wins you nothing. When the light changes I treat it like a stop sign, left, right, left then go. Unlike a Model S you don't have 2+ tons of aluminum and engineering around you. You might get a bruise in a car, your dead on a bike. Being fist has no reward at all. - - - Updated - - - Man I should have proofed this better. Rode should be ride; fist should be first. Is there a way to edit a post?