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Importing tesla model s into south america

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by johnratty, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. johnratty

    johnratty Member

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    Hey Tesla Motors Club members,

    I am Australian living in Argentina and want to import a Tesla Model S.

    How long does it take to charge a 85kwh Model S on 240volts 50 hz standard power outlet that we use here in argentina... Similar to the European standards.

    Will the GPS work ? Do I need to use my phone GPS on bluetooth paired to the touchscreen to get the mapping to work on the 17inch screen.

    Any Chileans and or Mexicans that have been through this experience already feel free to let me know how things worked out for you guys.

    Thanks.
     
  2. jbcarioca

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    I have no experience with Argentina or Chile but I do have with Brazil. I tried for more than a year to get permission to import one in Brazil but it was not permitted because the car is not homologated anywhere in Mercosur (Brazil would have accepted, they said, certification from any other Mercosur country as basis for Brazil import approval). In any event I could notget permission. A few months ago Brazil exempted BEV's from import duties so maybe there is a chance.

    Tesla, at the same time explicitly told me there would be no support, no warranty protection, no firmware updates, no cellular coverage, no GPS database and no assistance of any kind, even if the car were shipped back to the US for servicing. Following the change in Brazilian policy I was told that Brazil and Mercosur distribution was a topic of long range interest. I was given the understanding that they will not consider beginning until the production lines have caught up with demand elsewhere.

    I gave up, bought a P85D in Miami and bought a condominium with parking to store it. Now I often go to Miami to visit my car.:love: That is actually true.
     
  3. Atlantis

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    Well, that's a first step. And with the new policy in solar power and net metering model in place, maybe Tesla will begin to saw more interest in Brazil as a market for Tesla Power wall batteries and, then for Tesla car sales. As a Brazilian (by birth) I would love to see a Tesla Factory to produce Tesla III and future Tesla pick up for South American market and Africa, but not before Chinese and European factories, so not before 2022 - 2025 at least.
     
  4. Ames

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    Hi John,

    I can share my experience importing to Abu Dhabi, UAE.

    It takes nearly 2 days to charge a 90 kWh battery from 0 to 100% on a normal 240 V 10 amp plug. To be more realistic, my daily commute consumes 15% of my battery and I can easily get that back and much more in 12 hours. Why not install a more powerful supply like 3 phase 16 amps or 32 amps which allows you to charge at over 50 km/h or 100 km/h. You will need dual chargers for the 32 amp option.

    The turn-by-turn navigation will not work but google maps will. You can use the 17" screen to find places and place a pin which you can see relative to your current location. It works but it's not the same as turn-by-turn which uses an onboard Navigon map. I'm not sure if the Mexican Teslas cover south America - you could check with them.

    We have over 20 cars in the UAE and we recently flew in a Tesla ranger to do all sorts of odd jobs such as service, battery replacement, dual charger installation, upgrade to Ludicrous, and installation of a local SIM card (recommended).

    It is a lot of fun taking the car for registration and watching them search for the engine and a place to put the emissions probe.

    Alex
     
  5. meloccom

    meloccom Moderator Aus/NZ

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    #5 meloccom, Mar 12, 2016
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    240 Volts and 10 Amps will charge a Model S at about 10 Km/h so about 2 days flat to full. Fortunately you're rarely in the position where you need to execute a full charge. In most cases you will plug in after a day's usage and replace what you used that day whilst you are asleep which is about 100Km per night. I would recommend you consider installing a compatible wall connector in your garage to speed your charging.

    The first thing to consider is what country where a Model S is sold has the most similar electricity system to Argentina, this is most likely a European country. So although you are in the South America a North American specification Model S may not be the correct one for your situation. I recommend you seek professional advice regarding your electrical situation.

    Although likely compatible an Australia Model S is probably the last place you want to get one due to our heavy Luxury Car Tax which is not refundable when you export the car. Tesla has so far declined to sell in New Zealand and most of these seem to have come directly from The Netherlands.

    Then finally you need to be sure the local authorities will allow you to import and register your car and what taxes and charges apply. To a large degree local specialist car clubs and importers should be able to help you answer those questions.

    Finally if you purchase it new through a Tesla centre it would be a good idea to mail them an Argentinian SIM card for them to install behind the 17" screen to give you data access. This should allow the google maps in the centre console to work, however the Turn by Turn Navigon navigation is unlikely to work as it relies in internal maps that would not cover Argentina.

    If you get through all that, without any Tesla support you could be up for significant expense when things go wrong but at least with data access Tesla can diagnose your car remotely assuming they are willing to do so.
    Good luck.
     
  6. Atlantis

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    It was so cruel from you to let them to be lost as that...Joking.
    More seriously, such pleasant moment deserves to be registered in the "Tesla Moments"'s thread...
     

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