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Impressive Anti-Elon Attack Ad

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  1. notAmeenPerson

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  2. Jeeps17

    Jeeps17 Cath Jockey in a P85

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    That video would have sounded much more credible without that one comment ...

    But with or without:

    Fail.
     
  3. doug

    doug Administrator / Head Moderator

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    "Don't ask us to pay for it!"

    And by "us" they apparently mean the entire solar system??

    I wonder who's behind it. The "filthy hippie" bit tells you something about the intended audience.
     
  4. Nevek

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    Bezos' revenge!

    (actually, I like the bantering twits between he and Musk and think it's healthy)

    (ohmman-have you got an image or a story for the "banter twits"?




     
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    #5 drinkerofkoolaid, Dec 22, 2015
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    Is this the Mike Ross who uploaded the video?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ross_(politician)

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  6. artsci

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    Who does these kinds of things? Lies and more lies. One would hope that more billionaires emulate Elon. Talk about tax payer subsidies -- the fossil fuel industry makes Elon's ventures look like pocket change.
     
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    the heartening thing is - look at the comments on that YouTube Video.
     
  8. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Awesome comments on the video - I'm betting they (where 'they' means 'whatever short or big oil company funded this') weren't expecting this kind of backlash.
     
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    The comments made me smile. I cannot believe anyone would post a pro video comment.
     
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    CHG-ON Still in love after all these miles

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    Then don't ask me to pay 4BB per year in oil subsidies.
     
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    2 "Likes" on the video. 123 "Dislikes" (actually I just made it 124).
     
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    Only one question: Why would anyone waste their time to create this?
     
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    The video was posted by "Mike Ross" who created his account on Dec 8. This is the only thing he's posted.

    Searching for Mike Rosses out there, there is a fictional character from the TV show Suits named Mike Ross. There are two former US House of Representatives named Mike Ross, one died in 2007 and the other is from Arkansas, but a Democrat. However he's a conservative Democrat running for governor.

    I think it's likely the person who created the YouTube account is either just some guy out there who has not been on the political map before, or it's someone taking a nom de plume for some reason.

    In any case it's clearly a gross distortion of the facts.
     
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    I'm a Conservative Republican and Tesla owner, the video is dumb. By the way, I have solar panels on my home too.
     
  15. tigerade

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    Exactly. This really doesn't seem like it was created by a professional political originazation. If it was, what would be the point? You can't lobby against Tesla's DOE loan because they have paid it back already, there is nothing left to do. You could maybe argue that they are just preaching to the choir, but I don't see a point. People who are anti-solar or anti-EV don't need any more convincing.

    I'd say the chances here are that there is a 10% chance that this ad is real and a 90% chance that this was created for troll worthiness only.

    I vote that we are being trolled.

    Edit: UNLESS, this Mike Ross guy really does have a personal vendetta against Elon. If that is the case, this is probably the stupidest possible way to go about it.
     
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    There are a lot of astroturf (fake grass root) organizations out there making these sorts of materials. They usually look on first blush like they are made by some grass roots organization or an individual, but if you look a bit closer, you see it isn't quite as home made as it originally looked. This strikes me as an astroturf video. In any case, the person or people who made it have some skill as with video editing. The composition and elements look like it was made by someone who has a lot of experience making political attack ads, especially those done by super pacs.
     
  17. Todd Burch

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    So you're a filthy hippie conservative Republican?

    Labels are awesome.
     
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    So, who benefits the most from this ad? I say ULA, who are SpaceX competitors. Regardless, it's a pretty stupid ad, I don't think it'll have a big impact on consumers. That's why I'm thinking it was created by the SpaceX competitor to try to influence politicians. Maybe they think they can scare enough politicians to influence key votes.
     
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    If it is an astroturf video, it's more likely to be from the energy industry. They have a history of these sorts of things.
     
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    I doubt the energy industry is worried about EVs right now. In ten years they might wake up, but EVs are a rounding error right now.
     

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