Included in Full Self Driving?

[drtimhill]

I have a theory... When they started producing the MY, this CV-19 pandemic was ramping up, shut downs were happening, and I think there were supply chain issues, so they installed HW 2.5 whenever needed to build a non-FSD order. There are also reports of LR AWD builds being equipped with the performance motor, as evidenced by the VIN number, which also points towards parts shortages and using whatever they had to build more cars to meet demand and end of Q numbers.

That is certainly plausible.

 

[adecker]

Well technically FSD was on my order while they were building my car so it should have HW3. If it doesn't then I am sure they will upgrade it after I purchase FSD. I guess 100% worst case scenario I will just return the car and repurchase with FSD.

 

[CYBER_Y]

Be sure your general sales tax is less than your vehicle sales tax. Those points could cost you more than you think. Of course, if you have some spend bonuses to burn through and can split the transaction...

With infinitely recurring excise tax, general sales tax will always be cheaper for me.

 

[adecker]

With infinitely recurring excise tax, general sales tax will always be cheaper for me.

This sounds horrible... Where do you have this scheme?

 

[Silicon Desert]

I ordered the Y with FSD. At delivery I asked how much I could put on my credit card and they said none. So I asked them to remove the FSD from the car. Took them less than a minute to remove it from the purchase order and adjusted the price.

When I got home I went in the app and upgraded. Easy process.

Side note. Since FSD cost is not included in the MSRP of the car it might lower your excise tax on the license tab for the car.

Right, I did same thing and I also paid a lower registration cost on the car in Nevada because it was based on the initial price of the car. And I got 2% reward back on the credit card.

 

[Koolio46]

Purchasing the FSD after delivery sounds like a good way to save some money...hmm, will definitely be considering this option when I place my order (I'm in MA).

 

[CYBER_Y]

This sounds horrible... Where do you have this scheme?

Maine - we get charged a yearly tax based on the msrp of the vehicle. It decreases yearly for about 5 years and then remains constant for the life of the vehicle even upon resale. It goes to the local municipality budget, I believe.

 

[adecker]

Maine - we get charged a yearly tax based on the msrp of the vehicle. It decreases yearly for about 5 years and then remains constant for the life of the vehicle even upon resale. It goes to the local municipality budget, I believe.

Wow.... Vehicle purchase taxes are such a scam. Especially on used cards bought and sold in the same state, basically the state collecting tax on the same product multiple times.

 

[quadroplexor]

This sounds horrible... Where do you have this scheme?

California Vehicle License Fee is based on purchase price then depreciated over 11 years. So including $8k in purchase price you pay year after year.

3.075 Vehicle License Fee - California DMV

 

[jf64k]

Any easy way to tell if you have HW2.5 vs. 3.0??

 

[DaveORD]

Any easy way to tell if you have HW2.5 vs. 3.0??

How to check hardware version?

 

[jf64k]

How to check hardware version?

I want easier, haha!!

Thanks for the link!!

 

[Reborn]

Just check with your insurance before you do this. If you end up totaling the car and FSD was not part of original purchase, but an add on, does your insurance cover FSD too? Make sure, do not assume. FSD is not transferable, it will stay with the car.

Yes they cover add ons, you just have to tell them...it will prob increase the premiums though.

 

[JK929]

Hypothetically, if the MY without FSD that is delivered to me has HW2.5, if I decide I want to purchase FSD later on, am I also getting a complimentary upgrade/retrofit to HW3?

 

[ElectricIAC]

Hypothetically, if the MY without FSD that is delivered to me has HW2.5, if I decide I want to purchase FSD later on, am I also getting a complimentary upgrade/retrofit to HW3?

I’d say that’s likely.

 

[JK929]

I’d say that’s likely.

Good to know, I'd hate to miss out on HW3 just because I didn't add FSD at the time of vehicle purchase! haha

 

[AirDocs]

You may want to consider adding 8k FSD to price of vehicle, you may pay more registration fees but if your writing car off for business, and depending on your tax brackets, you may save a lot more buying it with car saving you Fed and State income Tax.

 

[ElectricIAC]

I'd hold that thought until seeing how the new FSD beta does.

 

[DaveORD]

Apparently it is 40.8.10 if these tweets are valid...

https://twitter.com/brandonee916/status/1319116201742618627
https://twitter.com/brandonee916/status/1319126180675481600

https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1319142259086913536?s=20
https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1319088809821171712