mine as well. it is not much different than hood river to the dalles in distance, serves two major routes, has services. However, all of those are really truck stops, and I imagine somewhat limited in land space.
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Increasingly Frustrated with Oregon Supercharger Situation
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I think Tesla owners everywhere want more superchargers. In CA, they have high density, but lines are more common than most other places. It's getting better, but not as fast as people would like - this is largely Tesla's fault for overpromising their "coming soon" locations for years. But on the other hand, Tesla is way ahead of other EV manufacturers in having a supercharger network at all, and they seem to have turned over a new leaf of realism in their "coming soon" supercharger map.
We recently drove a leg from Poncha Springs, CO supercharger to Taos ski valley, NM - 177 miles, 2000' elevation gain, with a ski rack, temperatures around freezing, in a model 3 SR+. Yes, we had to drive slow. We had slow chargers as contingency, if needed. We made it, but it wasn't what you'd call relaxing. It would have been easier if they had built either the long "coming-soon" Alamosa or Walsenburg CO supercharger locations. I think we can all look forward to the future when superchargers are almost everywhere, like gas stations are now, but when we get there, a part of me will miss the adventure.
We recently drove a leg from Poncha Springs, CO supercharger to Taos ski valley, NM - 177 miles, 2000' elevation gain, with a ski rack, temperatures around freezing, in a model 3 SR+. Yes, we had to drive slow. We had slow chargers as contingency, if needed. We made it, but it wasn't what you'd call relaxing. It would have been easier if they had built either the long "coming-soon" Alamosa or Walsenburg CO supercharger locations. I think we can all look forward to the future when superchargers are almost everywhere, like gas stations are now, but when we get there, a part of me will miss the adventure.
In the past Tesla only said “coming in year xxxx which meant nothing, but in January started saying which qtr implying more realistic. So Tesla map says Myrtle Creek coming in q1 2021 implies actually coming soon but no permit and no construction yet? Anyone gone through recently to check? I believe it’s the biggest gap on I5 from Mexico to Canada so should be a priority. Want to tow a small trailer but need SC every 100 miles max to be realistic.
I drove through late at night a couple weeks ago and didn't see anything. Wasn't exactly a thorough scouting though.
I'm surprised how many people seem to think that the presence of quarters is some indication that Tesla will keep their promises when they have no track record of that in the past.
Firstly let's compare V2 (150kW max) and V3 (250kW max) superchargers. The V3 will only exceed the V2 power output for at most 15-minutes in my experience, and that's when arriving with <5% SOC. SO given that the V2's will just stay at 120-140kW for longer, you're not saving a huge amount of time. If I get out of the car for coffee or food, I never notice a V2 is slower. I just completed a trip to California where most are V2 chargers and really didn't feel the need for V3 power. I also didn't have to share a V2 unit anywhere, except once, so that helped.
As a Seattle area driver, I'd like to give you a perspective from up here. There have been a lot of superchargers turned on in Washington State in the last 18 months, and I'm grateful for options, but I don't use them because they are TOO CLOSE to home on any outbound trip when I leave home with 100% SOC. My first stops outbound are Salem going south on I-5 (used to be Woodburn until this year) and Moses Lake going east on I-90. I probably could make Ritzville instead, but since the mountains of ID/MT are energy suckers, I will always charge to near full at Spokane or Coeur d'Alene before traversing them thar hills, so don't need to stretch my range on the prairie portion of WA.
Returning home when I haven't been able to get an overnight L2 charge somewhere, I don't want to supercharge to 100%, so will make use of the new Washington state chargers so I can go a little faster on my way home. But as they say, with EVs go slow to get there faster.
For Oregon travels, I can make Woodburn to Bandon without a sweat, so feel reaching any part of the Oregon coast is OK, but there's a big gap between Bandon and Lincoln City. The "coming soon" site in Newport would help, but I feel it should be further south, in either Florence or Reedsport, as both those cities have routes inland to I-5.
My travels in Eastern Oregon have been limited to Bend area (which obviously is covered), and an eclipse trip to Monument. I welcome Burns being permitted (not yet started construction) but feel something is needed north of that in John Day area to cover OR-26, but most of all something closer to Nevada on Rte 95, say in McDermitt to make a trip from Seattle to Vegas without having to go via Salt Lake City. That trip was Covidized last March and never happened.
As a Seattle area driver, I'd like to give you a perspective from up here. There have been a lot of superchargers turned on in Washington State in the last 18 months, and I'm grateful for options, but I don't use them because they are TOO CLOSE to home on any outbound trip when I leave home with 100% SOC. My first stops outbound are Salem going south on I-5 (used to be Woodburn until this year) and Moses Lake going east on I-90. I probably could make Ritzville instead, but since the mountains of ID/MT are energy suckers, I will always charge to near full at Spokane or Coeur d'Alene before traversing them thar hills, so don't need to stretch my range on the prairie portion of WA.
Returning home when I haven't been able to get an overnight L2 charge somewhere, I don't want to supercharge to 100%, so will make use of the new Washington state chargers so I can go a little faster on my way home. But as they say, with EVs go slow to get there faster.
For Oregon travels, I can make Woodburn to Bandon without a sweat, so feel reaching any part of the Oregon coast is OK, but there's a big gap between Bandon and Lincoln City. The "coming soon" site in Newport would help, but I feel it should be further south, in either Florence or Reedsport, as both those cities have routes inland to I-5.
My travels in Eastern Oregon have been limited to Bend area (which obviously is covered), and an eclipse trip to Monument. I welcome Burns being permitted (not yet started construction) but feel something is needed north of that in John Day area to cover OR-26, but most of all something closer to Nevada on Rte 95, say in McDermitt to make a trip from Seattle to Vegas without having to go via Salt Lake City. That trip was Covidized last March and never happened.
Agreed. While nice, I tend to do my stops with meals and schedule longer breaks. the gain is marginal for me.
Agreed. I leave with that much most of the time. I do use Cle Elum, though, because it's far away for me when I go to Seattle
yes, Bend itself is good. Coming from the north on the eastern side, The Dalles is 20 minutes out of the way and going without it adds a lot of time at 50mph.
I can hope they get their stuff together and put one in. Hood River is great and all, but I fail to see how it's advantageous for many folks. It's near portland, near the dalles, and not on a north-south like Biggs Junction. Great spot to eat though!
This! It'd be nice if we could move away from, "How does this facilitate my travel from point A to point Z?", and more toward, "How does this facilitate my consumption of great (and unique) food?"
I'm much more likely to patronize the area around Superchargers with good food options than I am a "gas station" in the middle of nowhere.But there I go again — begging to be choosy.
Huh. Those are now closer than I thought now that they built the one in Ontario, OR. That route to Bend used to be over 300 miles. From Supercharger to Supercharger, Ontario to Bend is now 262 miles. Boise to Winnemucca is 255 miles.
Mrbrock
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How often do you make these road trips and how long are they? Sometimes it makes more sense to rent a minivan for travels with the troupe and enjoy the savings and everyday fun of Tesla’s for your normal driving until you are more comfortable with the supercharger situation.
This is set at departure 100% soc in a SR Y set to 325 wh/mile consumption And just picking a random E OR destination. There is one stretch recommended for 55mph max but this would be worst case. If you go long range you should have no issues unless we are talking major snow/rain/wind. In that case, maybe you plan to overnight in the middle of the Dalles/Pendleton gap somewhere with L2 overnight charging. Just some thoughts, may not make sense for you but maybe something you haven’t thought of.
IdaX
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The Y gets much worse efficiency compared to the 3.Is the Model 3 SR pulling a trailer or something; that's terrible consumption!
IdaX
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You're right; I was thinking 3 for some reason. Still, that reference Wh/mi is that of an X... would have to be a pretty bad day for a Y to get that bad as a reference consumption. But I suppose that's the point of your post!
Yeah, life sometimes includes high consumption. Driving rain or heavy winds or winter are not all that uncommon in Oregon.
Mrbrock
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I purposely entered a high wh/mile to show worst case scenario (I think ABRP default is 293 for SR Y). Think rain, cold, wind or other negative range factors. Just trying to show OP that while range anxiety can be real, even with the lowest range current vehicle (Y SR) it isn’t that bad of a situation. One only made better by adding 80 (60 real world) extra miles by getting LR Y.Is the Model 3 SR pulling a trailer or something; that's terrible consumption!
theeskimo
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Real world example of when I drove from my home in Vancouver to the Pendleton supercharger in my 2019 Stealth with 18 inch Aeros and hubcaps on. The route goes through the Columbia River Gorge which very often has high winds. It's doable in a LR Model 3, especially the 2021 models, just watch your speed
yea, doable, though that direction is with the wind much of the time. it's tough. one of the reasons to want a 2021 LRReal world example of when I drove from my home in Vancouver to the Pendleton supercharger in my 2019 Stealth with 18 inch Aeros and hubcaps on. The route goes through the Columbia River Gorge which very often has high winds. It's doable in a LR Model 3, especially the 2021 models, just watch your speed
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Real world example of when I drove from my home in Vancouver to the Pendleton supercharger in my 2019 Stealth with 18 inch Aeros and hubcaps on. The route goes through the Columbia River Gorge which very often has high winds. It's doable in a LR Model 3, especially the 2021 models, just watch your speed
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Try doing it in an SR+ or a Model X towing something...
Also, Teslafi doesn't log energy usage, it's an estimate based on distance traveled and best guesses of efficiency. You can actually go in and update the ratio factor that it uses. ABRP or another service would be a bit more accurate, especially in changing conditions like wind or rain.
