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Inexpensive electric vehicles may come sooner than you think.

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by Dutchie, Apr 2, 2015.

  1. Dutchie

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  2. eloder

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    They're already here, for commuter/daily EVs.

    The smart ED I have on order is $430 down, $139 a month for the lease in a state with zero incentives. It's just a matter of time until 200+ mile EVs follow soon.
     
  3. tomas

    tomas Traded in 9 rep bars for M3, used to be somebody!

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    Hmmm. That's $300 x 85 = $25,500 for 85 kWh battery that Tesla put retail price of I think $44k on? Sounds about right for markup of a supply constrained commodity.
    At $230 per kWh, cost would be just under $20,000. If megafactory relieves supply/demand imbalance, that means if/when I need replacement (assuming retail markup goes to a more reasonable number), I could expect around $25k? That's a projection that's good to know.
     
  4. Johan

    Johan Took a TSLA bear test. Came back negative.

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    The math sounds about right. Of course there's also some cost to constructing the pack, even if most of the cost are the cells themselves.

    Also, you're talking about what the Megafactory could accomplish. Just imagine if they were to build a frickin' Gigafactory! (Sorry, just teasing a bit).
     
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    I am jealous. I can't get most EVs in my state (for example, Mercedes B Class, Fiat, Smart) because they won't sell (won't service) them here (in Nebraska). I would be very tempted to have a second EV for work and errands. A Smart ED at $430 down and $139 a month would do it for me, hold me over just about right until the Model 3 comes out.
     
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    While there was doubt about the general success of the EV a year or two ago, I think it's obvious how all the big players in the car industry are going in now. There will be huge amounts of batteries produced. The Giga Factory won't be the only large production facility and prices will come down quite a bit.
     
  7. ChadS

    ChadS Petroleum is for sissies

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    I think $45k was the initial price; as you note that was when Tesla was battery constrained and selling a battery would mean they could build one less car, so they no doubt had very significant margin built in to that price.

    Tesla seems (?) to no longer be battery constrained, but rather by other elements of the production process. The stores are currently quoting $25k for an 85kWh battery (and $20k for a 60kWh). Plus shipping and installation.

    My guess is that's just over their current total cost to build the battery - but I have no inside info, that's just a guess. Tesla does emphasize that $25k is pretty inexpensive for what you are getting.
     
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    tomas Traded in 9 rep bars for M3, used to be somebody!

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    Yikes, I feel as if I went to Starbucks and ordered a large instead of a grande.
     
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    :( I hate to hear that. Ohio is nearly as bad but fortunately my local smart center is ED certified and sells them. No physical inventory though so I'm currently in the middle of a seven month wait from production to delivery, but at the very least it was possible to order one.

    Leaf prices (next cheapest EV in my city) are 300+ a month to lease. I'm glad a smart works for me because I couldn't possibly pay twice as much for as small of a step-up as a Leaf.
     
  10. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I hadn't heard this (but I'm behind on many things lately). Reference/link? Thanks.
     
  11. ChadS

    ChadS Petroleum is for sissies

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    I haven't seen anything online; I just heard it while talking to somebody at the Bellevue store.
     
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    #12 ChadS, Apr 3, 2015
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    I mentioned that I hadn't heard anything online; they said they didn't think there was a public announcement, but it was a big deal internally and the product specialists were all told the new pricing so they could discuss it with customers that ask. (It did not include new Roadster battery pricing, unfortunately).
     

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