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There is an ongoing epidemic of small rear corner windows on Teslas being broken into so thieves can check in the trunk area for backpacks and luggage.

We had a big thread on that that eventually got locked due to complaints about some content in that thread being inappropriate.

I am going to attempt to summarize the situation for anyone new to this who is wondering why someone broke their Tesla window, and/or what they can do to prevent it.


The situation:

Along with the occasional opportunist (usually if they see something valuable on the seat), there are known gangs who have made Tesla window smashing a part of their regular daily routine. They drive all around the SF bay area smashing window after window so they can pop down the rear seat-backs to check in the trunk space. In most cases there was nothing to steal, but they broken the window anyways just to check.

In many cases, the police are aware of this, but they hesitate to go after these individuals because our California laws have become so forgiving on these types of crimes. Part of the reason laws were modified to make this harder to prosecute and resultant minimal possible jail time is that bills had been introduced to reduce crowding in prisons. Among the recent law changes that have apparently emboldened criminals to become more brash is a law that says you must prove that the car was locked to charge someone with breaking in. Even if they smash a window, they can say it wasn't a crime because they claim the car was unlocked. Also, if they didn't actually take anything when spotted, they can say that they didn't intend to take anything, and that also seems to work as a defense. Even if they get caught in the act of taking something out of a locked car, items under $950 in value make it a misdemeanor burglary and the maximum jail time they could receive is 1 year.

Many of these thieves are looking for laptops. They know many tech workers in the bay area are bringing their company laptops home with them every night, particularly in the Silicon Valley (San Jose/Santa Clara/Sunnyvale/Mountain View/Palo Alto) areas. They intentionally target shopping malls with restaurants, and movie theaters to increase their chances of finding a laptop in the trunk of their target cars. International organized crime rings have been charged with buying bulk laptops from these gang members, and then shipping them overseas to be parted out.

Some members of these gangs have been creating videos bragging about their success in this criminal enterprise. They openly admit to breaking into Teslas and making lots of money "finding" laptops. They show off their glass breaking tools and talk about how nobody is safe from this.

Another group they target is tourists in popular tourist locations. Those tourists may have travel cash, cameras, and jewelry in their cars as they visit popular photo spots, particularly in San Francisco.


What can you do to help protect yourself? :

First off, avoid having anything of value you in your car whenever possible. That may not prevent a break-in, but at least you wouldn't lose something besides the window, and the less successful the thieves are at this, the more likely they would be to stop doing it.

Secondly, if you are willing to leave your rear seat backs down to show an empty trunk area it may prevent someone from breaking in.

Thirdly, if you must have the seat-backs up, consider a device like the "DropLock" that makes it very hard for someone to reach through a broken window to lower your rear seat backs. It may not prevent a window smash, but if you did have something of value in the trunk it may stop them from getting to it. They may also notice that the seats are locked and move on.

Forth, consider having a TeslaCam flash drive in the car, and the Tesla Sentry mode turned on. The alarm may scare away some potential thieves, and the sentry cam videos may help law enforcement have a better idea of who is doing this. Even if the break-in isn't enough to go after someone, they may find other reasons to arrest them once they realize who is doing this repeatedly.

Fifth, if possible avoid parking in the areas known to be "hot spots" for these types of break-ins. Avoiding popular tourist spots, restaurants and movie theater parking lots is an annoyance for sure, but being selective about where you park can make a difference. This isn't just a problem when parking in "bad" areas at night, but this is happening in broad daylight in busy upscale areas.


What else can you do? :

Do file police reports if you have a window smashed. Provide the police with any sentry cam videos you captured. Don't expect the police to actively respond and track this person down, but your data helps them built a better picture of the overall problem, and they can respond eventually when they see a pattern that could result in catching chronic repeat offenders.

Consider voting and telling your colleagues to vote for bills that would make it easier to prove that window smashing is a crime, and stiffen penalties for this sort of activity.



Note, many people had uploaded their SentryCam videos showing their windows being broken. I am avoiding putting those in this thread because they were getting people too upset in the other threads, and causing people to suggest vigilante justice which we don't want to encourage.
 
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A repeat pattern has been seen for years now where a luxury car is rented in Sacramento, driven to the Oakland area, and a stolen license plate is then put on it, then it is driven around the bay area on a daily crime spree. This tactic means that pictures of the car aren't so useful in finding the criminals, and police license plate readers point them to a victim rather than the criminals.

With the advent of Tesla SentryCam we are seeing videos of people wearing masks to hide their faces.

Some people have been charged with auto burglary repeatedly many times over the years. They may spend some time in jail occasionally but they have a habit of going back to this activity again as soon as they get back out again.

Even if you immediately report seeing someone doing this, the police may not give chase because they tend to have policies that value public safety more than catching "petty" criminals. High speed car chases can result in critical accidents.

Some related news stories and references:

21 members of Oakland street gang indicted for auto burglary – Marin Independent Journal

21 Suspects Connected to 'Ghost Town Gang' Indicted in Car Burglary Ring

Rash of Hollywood Car Burglaries Traced Back to Oakland Gang

East Bay men arrested, others sought in L.A. car burglaries

21 Suspects indicted in car burglary ring

Bay Area Car Burglary Gang Stole Thousands of Laptops

GRAND JURY INDICTS 21 SUSPECTS FOR OPERATING AN AUTO BURGLARY RING - District Attorney - County of Santa Clara

DA: Oakland's 'Ghost Town Gang' planned break-ins across Bay Area

Feds: Suspected Oakland gang member stole FBI agent’s laptop

2014 California Proposition 47 - Wikipedia

California’s Proposition 47: Crime and No Consequences | National Review

Epidemic Of Car Break-Ins Makes Parking A Nightmare For Bay Area Drivers

Police investigation: Trio of suspects burglarized 11 South Bay vehicles in two months

Deputies: 2 known auto burglary suspects arrested in Cupertino

Weekend car burglary spree outside Century 16
...
Posted by Michael99
a resident of Willowgate
on Nov 13, 2018 at 10:59 am
My car was smash-n-grabbed in Cupertino in August. There was nothing left out on the seats, the perpetrators smashed the rear windows and got into the trunk by lowering the rear seat back. They stole an old mexican blanket and an earthquake emergency kit. Cost me $500 to fix the two windows. Cupertino police told me it was most likely a gang coming down from the Oakland area. They make the trip down and hit several parking lots while they're here. The police said they had gotten into a shootout earlier this summer with a smash-n-grab crew...

Alameda Police Department
Another successful undercover operation to combat auto burglaries and vehicle thefts in a West End Shopping Center. APD detectives combined with Alameda County Transit Crimes Unit deputies observed two suspicious vehicles in the parking lots. One vehicle was determined to be stolen (driver arrested); and the other vehicle, had false plates and when contacted, the driver was cited for additional drug and weapons violations.

APD detectives will continue with these proactive enforcement operations, but we again remind people to:
-Lock your vehicles
-Keep valuables secured in your trunk
-Keep bags/purses/laptops/etc out of view

Eyewitness Helps Capture 'Career Criminal'
ALAMEDA, CA — An auto burglar zipping around the Bay Area in a silver Jaguar was arrested by Alameda Police after an alert Good Samaritan snapped a photo and provided it to officers, the department reports. APD has labeled the suspect a "career criminal" who is responsible for recent crimes in at least nine cities around the area.

Police reported last week that back in February an Alameda resident saw a backpack being thrown out the window of the Jaguar and took a photo. That was the clue investigators needed to solve a one person crime wave...
The backpack had been stolen just minutes earlier at a shopping center parking lot. Officers found that three other vehicles had been burglarized at the same time.

Property Crime detectives turned to License Plate Readers to identify the suspect and meticulously linked him to other Alameda thefts and crimes in other jurisdictions. The suspect has prior arrests for auto burglary, felony evading of police, and concealed weapons convictions and is currently on probation for burglary.

Now arrested and charged, police say, "This career criminal would not have been identified without the help of the alert witness. So remember, if you see something, say something. Do not put yourself in danger, but try to be the best witness possible."

The San Francisco Car Break-In Tracker

The Broken Windows Theory
...a vast majority of smash-and-grabs are being committed by roughly 20 percent of offenders. These are typically professional criminals organized into work groups like modern-day raiding parties. The crime itself is usually carried out in less than a minute; one suspect keeps a lookout, another smashes the car window and grabs any available goods, and a third acts as getaway driver. Then the crew flees to another neighborhood, looking for its next victim. In other cases, gang members work in larger groups and will sometimes hit every car on a single block before fleeing. Cops suspect that these roving smash-and-grab crews are familiar with police tactics, often sharing intelligence through word of mouth and social media about neighborhoods that are under police surveillance—including descriptions of undercover vehicles and disguises undercover officers might be using....
...career criminals who were in other fields of crime, such as drug dealing and home burglaries, have migrated to auto burglary. According to Martin, this was motivated by a sense of self-preservation. Drug dealers are at risk of violence from territorial beefs with other dealers and are themselves vulnerable to armed robbery. Breaking into homes, meanwhile, can result in a violent encounter with a resident and heavier sentences for those who are convicted. But to be sentenced for any crime, you first must be arrested. And car thieves, it seems, couldn’t help noticing that, in recent years, there was little chance of an arrest being made in San Francisco. “If you have a 98 percent chance of getting away with a crime, you’ll commit it again,”...

SFDA Deploys Digital Auto Burglary Tip Line and Announces Plans for an Auto Burglary Taskforce | District Attorney
...“We know that a small percentage of individuals are responsible for the vast majority of auto burglaries in San Francisco,” said District Attorney George Gascón...
...According to the civil grand jury, criminal street gangs are behind 70 to 80 percent of all auto burglary incidents in San Francisco. These individuals often work in teams with the crimes taking just seconds, which makes catching an auto burglar in the act very difficult for police. For these reasons, post-incident investigation is essential in order to apprehend auto burglars and hold them accountable for the crimes they’ve committed...
...In order to expand the amount of data that CSU has at their disposal for analysis and subsequent investigation – and which can ultimately be used in a prosecution – SFDA has created a digital tip line. The public can access the tip line at sfdistrictattorney.org/auto-burglary-tipline. There, members of the public can get information about how to submit tips related to suspects, suspect vehicles, photos, videos and more. If possible, it is preferential that people use our website since this data can be more quickly accessed by our analysts. However, for individuals that do not have access to a computer they can also call SFDA’s auto burglary hotline at 415-553-7337. When evidence is unable to be transmitted via the web, District Attorney Investigators will come out to the community to gather evidence for analysis. ...

http://civilgrandjury.sfgov.org/2015_2016/2015-16_CGJ_Final_Report_Auto_Burglary_in_SF_6_20_16.pdf
...Breaking into a car with the intent to steal is auto burglary, which is a felony under California law; however, because an eye witness account is needed to make an arrest, fewer than two percent of incidences result in charges. An estimated 70 to 80 percent of auto burglaries are committed by criminal street gangs...
...People assume auto burglaries are committed by people down on their luck, i.e., the homeless, the drug addicted, or juvenile delinquents. While such people do commit auto burglary and other crimes of opportunity, SFPD investigators and prosecutors in the San Francisco District Attorney’s Office (DA or DA’s Office) believe the vast majority of offenses are the work of organized career criminals comprising less than 20 percent of the pool of offenders. Many are gang members. Some are armed and violent. Most have prior felony convictions. They own cars or are adept at stealing them to commit crimes. They stake out the most lucrative spots for car break-ins such as North Beach, the Palace of Fine Arts, or parking structures like the ones at the Stockton Garage and Costco...
...Law enforcement officials estimate that criminal street gangs are behind 70 to 80 percent of auto burglary incidents. Public safety officials in both the DA’s Office and SFPD agree on the following about organized criminals:
● They are highly proficient at counter surveillance and evading capture.
● They work in teams of two to five people, although different people from the same gang make up the teams on different days. They use mobile phones to communicate with multiple contacts to fence stolen goods.
● Many are known to law enforcement and have multiple felony arrests, some for violent crimes. They switch to other crimes – such as robbery or car theft – if the opportunity arises.
● They operate in target rich areas of the City, such as tourist destinations and large parking structures, and they are extremely active in their crimes. They drive from location to location, breaking into dozens of parked cars in a day, at 30 seconds a break-in, without leaving fingerprints.
● Some are armed, but most avoid violent confrontation because of its attendant risk of being arrested and jailed.
● They are familiar with police tactics and know about the arrests of other gang members through word of mouth and social media.
● Their criminal activity continues as long as it is lucrative and the perceived risk of apprehension is low.

Press Release - International investigation into multi-million dollar international fencing and ... from Fremont Police Department (CA) : Nixle
...A careful investigation revealed a highly sophisticated multi-million dollar fencing scheme operating in the Bay Area. Street-level criminal suspects, many of them members of validated street gangs, were found to be breaking and entering parked vehicles in cities throughout the Bay Area to steal laptops, smart phones and tablets. It was determined that the conspiracy was centralized in Santa Clara County. Detectives consulted with the Santa Clara County District Attorney’s Crime Strategies Unit, who assisted in authoring warrants and high bail affidavits for the large scale pre-planned operation, throughout the investigation...
 
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Examples of ways to file online police reports about window smashes and thefts:

San Francisco; File a Police Report | San Francisco Police Department

Burlingame; Welcome to Burlingame, California

San Mateo: SMPD Online Crime Reporting | San Mateo, CA - Official Website

Belmont; File a Police Report | City of Belmont

Woodside/San Carlos/Milbrae; Online Crime Reporting | San Mateo County Sheriff's Office

Redwood City; https://www.redwoodcity.org/departments/police-department/report-crime-online

Menlo Park; https://www.menlopark.org/617/Online-crime-reporting

East Palo Alto; http://www.ci.east-palo-alto.ca.us/index.aspx?nid=271

Palo Alto; https://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/depts/pol/report/default.asp

Mountain View; https://www.mountainview.gov/coplogic/start-report.html

Sunnyvale; https://sunnyvale.ca.gov/government/safety/services/reportcrime.htm

Santa Clara; http://santaclaraca.gov/government/departments/police-department/online-reporting

San Jose; https://www.sjpd.org/reportingcrime/

Fremont; https://www.fremontpolice.org/index.aspx?nid=89

Milpitas; http://www.ci.milpitas.ca.gov/online_reporting/start-report.html

Union City; https://www.unioncity.org/270/File-a-Police-Report

Hayward; https://www.hayward-ca.gov/police-department/public-services/file-police-report

San Leandro; http://sanleandro.org/depts/pd/fileapolicereport/start_report.asp

Alameda; https://www.alamedaca.gov/police/file-online-police-report

Oakland; https://www.oaklandca.gov/services/report-a-crime-online

Berkeley; https://www.cityofberkeley.info/onlinereport/

Richmond; http://www.ci.richmond.ca.us/3267/Online-Police-Report

Vallejo; http://www.ci.vallejo.ca.us/city_hall/departments___divisions/police/police_online_services
 
Thanks @OP for this thread - great info!

So what's the concensus on the strategy here?

My colleague who has his car (non-Tesla) broken into last week said he now parks his car unlocked, with all windows down and trunk open (not sure if he's serious about the trunk part).

Has Sentry Mode been a good deterrent against smash-and-grab so far?
 
Because the issue of car break-ins is a general problem effecting everyone, not just Tesla owners, and has been a problem for a long time (in the 80’s in the Orange County area two different cars I owned were broken into, none since though) this thread has been moved to Off Topic.

I know there are organized groups breaking into cars, and it is a real problem. But it happens to all kinds of cars, not just Teslas, and it happens in every state in the US.
 
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It is particularly bad in the SF bay area because so many Silicon Valley tech workers keep laptops in their cars. California is hard hit due to very lax laws on these types of crimes.

Tesla sedans seem to get hit with more frequency because criminals know that the back seat backs don't lock and they have found many laptops in bags in the trunks.

Being Tesla specific was somewhat "on topic" due to Sentry mode being available to provide video of these break-ins.
 
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Saw stories referring to San Francisco as "The city of broken glass."

Saw news stories about bait cars catching perps, but then saw they got released very soon after being caught. Our current laws don't treat this as a serious crime, and so some people just keep doing this over and over and over.

I think it is frustrating for the police, not just the car owners whos windows are being smashed.
 
Car burglaries in some California cities are at crisis levels. Prosecutors say their hands are tied

Thanks for posting the link to the article. If they catch the perpetrator in an attempted smash and grab and can't prove the car was locked, do they even get charged for vandalism ?? Would a sentry video be enough proof to law enforcement that the car was locked ? Overall, very concerning...
 
here are my 3d printed 'locks'. more visual than actual real hard locking but anything that looks like its harder than the next car - that MAY help him pass you by and pick the easier car.




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uses mailbox or filing cabling ($5) locks that you find in office stores or hardware stores. there's a cam that is printed and that's what turns and holds under the plastic seat bezel.

mine are in PLA plastic but I plan to have them professional made (shapeways, etc) in ABS so that they will withstand car temp swings. (PLA is just a test print to try this out).

I will probably pick black for the final color and use chrome for the lock, so that its seen but not too inviting.

just an idea. doing nothing is not an option, imho.