CertLive
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$2000! That doesn't even cover the labour costs on a combustion engine to get most cars to do that speed!
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Ingenext Boost Modules [aftermarket]
- Thread starter JPELKA
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I think the point is, if you want the extra performance then go for it.
But don't be like that guy who stuck tracks on his Model 3 then complained when Tesla denied his warranty claim
Was he able to do the mod? yes
Was he entitled to support from Tesla afterward? Absolutely not.
Same for this mod.
But don't be like that guy who stuck tracks on his Model 3 then complained when Tesla denied his warranty claim
Was he able to do the mod? yes
Was he entitled to support from Tesla afterward? Absolutely not.
Same for this mod.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Ya, it's pretty much settled that its just a software unlock, at least until some point in late 2019 builds.
Xambler
Member
If I recall correctly, the difference in hardware for my 2020 stealth from a plain lr awd was the power inverter on the rear motor. Basically capable of dumping more power into the motor. Think the motor itself was the same, but since the whole motor assembly including the inverter had a different part number everyone thought the motor itself was different. I’m guessing they just weren’t selling as many performance cars so had a fire sale on stealth options (think mine was $2000 extra...easy choice).
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Nope.
Up till early/mid 2019 AWD and P3D were physically identical. 100%.
After that the rear drive unit (which is the whole thing- motor and inverter and other bits) was different. (980 in the P, 990 in the AWD)
Garlan Garner
Banned
Its the same price.
You must have never needed to take your car into the service center.
Of course Tesla will find out what you did. when you do. That's a no-brainer.
Lastly....there is about to be a total software rewrite update coming. Good luck keeping your $2k Performance software. Will you have to send your car back to them AGAIN?
You must have never needed to take your car into the service center.
Of course Tesla will find out what you did. when you do. That's a no-brainer.
Lastly....there is about to be a total software rewrite update coming. Good luck keeping your $2k Performance software. Will you have to send your car back to them AGAIN?
Garlan Garner
Banned
Jailbreaking a $800 iPhone is light years different than jailbreaking a $60k car.
Most people can squeeze out another $800 for a phone in desperation, however......a $60k car....not so easy.
Just a quote from page 8 of the warranty above where it will be voided if:
Most people can squeeze out another $800 for a phone in desperation, however......a $60k car....not so easy.
Just a quote from page 8 of the warranty above where it will be voided if:
It isn't necessarily them modifying the code. It is being proposed earlier in the thread that they are intercepting the CANbus signals to the drive unit and replacing them with different(send more POWAH!) signals. The original code would stay the same.The bad part is that there are probably a myriad of ways of detecting it:
Accelerometer reading upon takeoff... can't hide it.
Inverter power USAGE, as measured by the inverter. I gotta assume that there's some checks in there to see if windings are taking the right amount of current, even if only to warn of impending motor failure. You could probably mimic/adjust this as well, to hide your shenanigans.
Battery power outflow..... I assume the BMS can see the actual power usage of the car, and its not rocket science to see the drive unit is taking more than its supposed to. This would be impossible to hide, and even if you could, it would be asking for battery capacity reporting issues.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
ARE they? Evidence?
The suggestion was it'd be a man in the middle device. Meaning they're using 0 tesla code.
Instead they'd be intercepting a CANBUS signal that says "provide 100 units of power" and then sending on "provide 120 units of power" as a replacement.
Again if this is just sitting plugged into the CANBUS, it's not changing anything when not in active use. So you just unplug it before service.
(that's based on the very very very little detail given so far so may not be correct- but it's what we've got)
THAT said- SC doesn't even matter- Tesla could trivially add code to the whole fleet that checks this during operation and reports it back to them remotely.
Utterly irrelevant.
It's the autopilot/FSD code being rewritten, has nothing to do with amping a canbus signal for "how much did driver press the accelerator" or "How much power to the motor for accelerator position X when driver commanded"
timk225
Active Member
Once these cars are old enough to be out of warranty, it'll be a tuners' paradise free-for-all. Hack the acceleration up, hack the supercharging back into working, hack into receiving software updates (maybe), etc.
It will be interesting to see how that goes since Tesla has threatened legal action against anyone doing that. and I suspect they would go not only after the owner but after the shop/hacker that did it.
diamond.g
Active Member
I would be curious if this remapping would mess with TACC acceleration curve, and how things like Summon would be affected.
Rothgarr
Active Member
"A modification won't void a warranty unless an automaker or a dealer can prove that an aftermarket part caused the need for repairs. In other words, your warranty will still be valid when your radiator springs a leak, even if you've added an aftermarket exhaust."
I think the key words here are if damage occurs as a result of modifications. I modified the heck out of my '94 Mustang when I got it new. But Ford still had to fix things under warranty that had nothing to do with the modifications I made.
I would also find it sketchy and legally questionable if Tesla disallowed charging after a mod like this.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Depends how smart it is... if canbus carries a on/off signal for things like TACC it could just insure it's not doing anything when TACC or AP are 'on'
Or the 'dumb' version is they put some kinda switch on it to turn it off and tell buyers "turn this off if planinng to use TACC or AP" I guess.
MPP mentions their partybox does NOT play well with those features FWIW.
