Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

Initiative 976

N8DGR8

Member
Jan 14, 2015
151
168
Seattle, WA
How are you planning to vote on Initiative 976?

I support most of the project that Initiative 976 would stop funding. However, I do not support the flat fees on electric and hybrid cars. The fees are higher than what I used to pay in gas taxes. If there are going to be fees, the fees need to phase out based on the age of the car.

I like the idea of helping pay for public charging infrastructure, but the projects do not seem well implemented. Locations are odd, and the charging prices very from reasonable to gouging. Why should it cost $21 for $3 worth of electricity when my taxes paid for the installation of the equipment? The oversight and management of the state funds could be better.

Interested to get others opinions before voting.
 

RedMS

Member
Dec 5, 2017
355
373
USA
It doesn't matter how you vote, the supreme court would call it unconstitutional just like the last 5 times Eyman tried this *sugar*.
Interesting how our state operates. Don’t like something? Have the court overturn it in the favor of whoever has deeper pockets.
 

RedMS

Member
Dec 5, 2017
355
373
USA
I’ll be voting
I think you meant "Don't like a voter approved contract? Sorry, it was approved, you can't commit to buy something and then say you won't pay for it later".

That’s laughable but I won’t debate that here. I guess we should just bend over and pay the yearly tax on our inflated car values and accept the deceiving wording of that ST3 fiasco.
 

wenkan

Member
Dec 31, 2018
582
533
Seattle
Those huge investments on public transit will become outdated shortly after robotaxi online. Everyone will have their own best stop location and route instead of being crowded together. Also tax on market price should be reasonable, but trusting kbb too much seems a potential risk.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: pilotSteve

im.thatoneguy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
329
594
Seattle, WA
Robotaxis fix light rail they don't make it obsolete. You take a robo taxi from your home to light rail and then mass transit 200 people across the bridge downtown who then disperse in robo taxis.

Trains are like fiber. Fast but hard to get where you live. Robotaxis are like 5G. Short range but solve the "last mile" issue of fiber.
 

N8DGR8

Member
Jan 14, 2015
151
168
Seattle, WA
I just got tabs renewal for my ‘17 S75D for $1,150. Based on my calculations, it’s being valued at about $75k (More than I paid for it new). I’ll let that speak for itself.
Electric cars are getting gauged in my opinion. Extra sales tax, extra weight charges, extra RTA fees, plus $200 no matter how much you drive. I don’t want transportation to go unfunded, but there needs to be a rate structure that does not discourage electrification at every step.
 

Kuhz

Active Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,901
2,071
Mars
Electric cars are getting gauged in my opinion. Extra sales tax, extra weight charges, extra RTA fees, plus $200 no matter how much you drive. I don’t want transportation to go unfunded, but there needs to be a rate structure that does not discourage electrification at every step.
Forget about the electric car extras, I’m semi-ok with those. What pisses me off is that I’m paying tax on 20k extra vs. what KBB (and market) says my car is worth.
 

Araman0

Member
Apr 18, 2018
291
446
Seattle
For those that won’t directly use the light rail (and BRT buses) in ST3, these programs will directly help reduce traffic on the roadways you use. They will literally remove hundreds of thousand of other cars from the highways per day when fully built out, (regardless of if the cars are robotaxi or not). The region is predicted to grow by another million people in the coming decade, and the question is do we want to just add those million drivers to our existing traffic, or do we want to have at least some mitigation funded and in place to deal with that first?

Strong “no” on 976 as traffic is already bad enough.
 

About Us

Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.

Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


SUPPORT TMC
Top