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Interesting NYT Article on Aluminum Supply -- Does This Affect Tesla's Prices?

Discussion in 'Tesla Motors' started by BlueTan85, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. BlueTan85

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    If true, that's a price manipulation scheme, pure and simple.

    I rather doubt it would have a material effect on Tesla, though.
     
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    Didn't Elon complain about aluminum prices in some interview, joking something like "makes me want to start an aluminum company". But indeed, that would be market cornering and is obviously illegal. Then again, lots of tricks banks pull are 'illegal'...
     
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    Let's run with this a little.

    If he started an aluminum company that provided aluminum to Tesla exclusively, what would be illegal about that? Perhaps unprofitable for that aluminum company but I'm not clear why it would be illegal.
     
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    Even though there is a lot of aluminum in a Tesla, there are a lot more soda & beer cans being cranked out around the globe....
     
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    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    And, unlike steel, 100% of it could be recycled.
     
  7. rolosrevenge

    rolosrevenge Dr. EVS

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    Um, steel is 100% recyclable.
     
  8. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    #8 ItsNotAboutTheMoney, Jul 21, 2013
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    What he means is that the steel is not as valuable when recycled, becauseof varisble properties. Aluminum is very recyclable and typicakky used up to 50% old to new even for high grade uses. I presume that aluminum is cheap enough that it's not worth additional processing in the recycling to bring the recycled stuff up to purity of the fresh metal. Aluminum is so recyclable that the vast majority of aluminum in use is recycled.

    The USA's rate was 65%, and of course higher where there's a deposit thancnot. Maine is also a bittkr bill state so all plastic bottkes exceot cider and dairy have a 5c depodit. Don't see many discarded drinks containers around here. If you don't want to redeem, a homekess person will.

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    He wss refering to Goldman Sachs.
     
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    It appears you have some stuck keys on your keyboard or you're typing with your toes. :wink:
     
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    aronth5 Long Time Follower

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    CapitalistOppressor did a great job assessing the cost of Aluminum.

     

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