-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Ioniq 5 vs Model Y
- Thread starter WADan
- Start date
-
- Tags
- tall driver comfort
thesmokingman
Active Member
If you think that's bad, look up the cost and service interval on the silly expensive coolant that's required and its a lot.
Is a coolent change needed on the Ionic ? I assumed it was good for the life of the car like the tesla.
thesmokingman
Active Member
Yes and they shortened the service interval last I read. And it's stupid expensive... this coolant has even impacted their battery recalls cuz they cannot replace a battery w/o this specific coolant.
Yes and they shortened the service interval last I read. And it's stupid expensive... this coolant has even impacted their battery recalls cuz they cannot replace a battery w/o this specific coolant.
Their service docs are veruy strange but it Looks like the interval is every 40K . I have a lift in my garage so I could perform this myself but yea, this is a deal breaker for me .
mangrove79
Member
I'm still surprised that I haven't seen a single one of any of these in the wild around where I live, Southwest FL, the most concentrated retirees in the US, who have plenty of money to spend. There are tons of Teslas here, in particular S and Xs, but increasing 3 and Ys. When you don't have to worry about mortgages and kids, it's amazing how freely you can spend. I'm literally wondering where are the ID4s, I5s and EV6s. Are they some mythical creatures? The only alternative EV I've seen in the wild is MME, a couple of times.
It's possible the generic designs of some of these "production" EVs make them easy to miss in a crowd of ICE cars, but I would definitely recognize a I5 when I see it. The others you mentioned, R1T, F-150, Silverado are just unicorns until they can deliver at least 100K/yr. So the "now we have ..." probably should be "in 2 years, we'll have..."
RichAZ/CapeCod
Member
I was hoping for some real competition for Tesla (it'd be good for the brand). But, your points are valid. No preconditioning is kinda nutty for a vehicle that ought to be a solid road-tripping EV.
Maybe they'll get it squared away some day.
Rich
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
I agree with most of your points, but wireless charging and wireless CarPlay are completely different technologies, and if you're going to complain about not having wireless CarPlay in the Hyundai you'd better complain about not having it at all in the Tesla.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
Are you talking about the Tesla or the Hyundai/Kia? Tesla is replacing the 12V batteries with LiFePO4 batteries and you can also get aftermarket retrofits. I assume you can get an aftermarket for other cars, but I've never checked so I don't know.
Yuk! That's a definite minus in the Hyundai/Kia column.Yes and they shortened the service interval last I read. And it's stupid expensive... this coolant has even impacted their battery recalls cuz they cannot replace a battery w/o this specific coolant.
I was talking about the Hyundai. When I ordered my Tesla in September I had no Idea it came with a lead acid battery. I think I found out sometime in November. I really wasn't happy about that or the need for a jump just to get back in the car. Basically even if you carried a backup with you you couldn't get to it . This is when I wished the tesla had a normal door lock somewhere. Fast foreard to today where the Teslas are coming with the lithium 15V batteries tht should last as long as your main pack .
There are tons of reports of the I5 having dead battery issues already. So yea I won't get any EV without ALL lithium batteries.
I'm still surprised that I haven't seen a single one of any of these in the wild around where I live, Southwest FL, the most concentrated retirees in the US, who have plenty of money to spend. There are tons of Teslas here, in particular S and Xs, but increasing 3 and Ys. When you don't have to worry about mortgages and kids, it's amazing how freely you can spend. I'm literally wondering where are the ID4s, I5s and EV6s. Are they some mythical creatures? The only alternative EV I've seen in the wild is MME, a couple of times.
It's possible the generic designs of some of these "production" EVs make them easy to miss in a crowd of ICE cars, but I would definitely recognize a I5 when I see it. The others you mentioned, R1T, F-150, Silverado are just unicorns until they can deliver at least 100K/yr. So the "now we have ..." probably should be "in 2 years, we'll have..."
Then you don't look hard enough... lol.
Then again there are 400K+ Teslas and maybe 10K Ioniq 5s and 10K EV6s in the US. There are about 35K+ Mach-Es and 30K ID.4s in the US. I definitely see more Mach-Es and ID.4s randomly than the Korean twins (they only started selling them in Feb basically). My retired Florida friend travelled to Europe last fall and saw Mach-Es everywhere and never saw a single one here. Ford sent loads of them to Europe for emission compliance rules.
I've seen ONE RAV4 Prime in the wild. They've sold 40K+ now. However.. it's hard to tell them from the regular RAV4s except for badging and the new aggressive 2021+ styling used in all new and higher trim RAV4s.
I occasionally see a Niro EV or i3. It's hard to tell the difference between an EV and non-EV Kona + Niro.
VW is using lithium ion in the 2022 ID.4s - of course none have been delivered to the US for some reason. lol.
Ioniq 5 dead battery issues has to due with weird software bugs. There's some drain Don't use the app to open your charge door! (was...
An EV6 owner setup a system to monitor his 12V recharging cycle:
Genesis GV60 EV will have preconditioning at launch and supposed the next year's Ioniq 5 will too.
It's not a dealbreaker for me because I don't even precondition on my Model Y... I find it wastes more power and I usually don't care for fastest charging speeds unless I'm a long road trip (which is almost never). I also live in a warm climate.
The lack of sentry/dashcam is a bigger deal with me - along with app control car. ID.4 has the worst external control. You can't even open the car via app. I've met a couple at an EA charger where the wife accidentally locked herself on the ID.4 because she left her purse with the fob inside. Neither could open the ID.4 (app doesn't have this feature) so they called an Uber to go home to pick up the second fob. WTF.
The Ioniq 5 has 357 liters of storage compared to a Tesla model 3’s 425 liters just in the trunk. The funny thing is, you can also compare it to a BMW M3 which was what I was thinking as soon as I saw M3 which has 480 liters. All 3 of the cars house 5 passengers too. In terms of practicality and cargo space, the Hyundai/Kia platform has less space.
Yup, way less space in the trunk in Ioniq 5, and no frunk, no subtrunk storage. It's not the car if you must have storage space.
I really hope I’m wrong that the other major auto manufacturers/assemblers can’t catch up and surpass Tesla. It’s just that looking at their supply chains and the current amount of EVs they are producing, they are really low. If legacy manufacturers need to start sourcing lithium batteries and BMS chips, I’m not sure if there is enough for them to produce in the numbers they are thinking of producing. Tesla is already starting to tap into direct mining resources which means supply is constrained. If there is some magic way to make the batteries, chips, and magnetics, that company would be the one to invest in.
gx9901
Active Member
Whoa! I did not know this about the Ioniq5! If that's true it would be a deal breaker for me. Unless our MYs have something similar that I didn't know about?Yes and they shortened the service interval last I read. And it's stupid expensive... this coolant has even impacted their battery recalls cuz they cannot replace a battery w/o this specific coolant.
The Ioniq 5 has a frunk, just can’t fit much in it (won’t even fit the charge cable). It has a subtrunk but it can only fit like 2 of the charge cable packs. It’s really flat. The craziest by far is the Mercedes EQS which has no frunk and you can’t even open up the front. It has a separate wiper fluid compartment with a hose and funnel.
thesmokingman
Active Member
If you ask me it's some sort or racket. No other EV needs this low conductive coolant. What sort of crappy design necessitates this coolant? There's weak design reason you know what I mean? Our Teslas are lifetime on coolant, you never have to replace it. The Hyundai/Kia PHEV/EV on the other hand all use this coolant and lots of it, smh.
Similar threads
