Haha you guys are all complaining because you want it.
Sure I'd love to play with it. But wanting to play 10k for a hands on driver assist feature is a hard pass for me.
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Haha you guys are all complaining because you want it.
I'm in the market for my first X and have been mulling over the FSD. I would get it if there is value to me. I love the idea of being able to taxi myself to work everyday, that might be worth (20min commute each way).
So I see it this way. I have no intentions of using this as a a robotaxi and I only keep cars for about 5 years. (Not taking into account investing that 10k) I see it breaking down as costing me $8 a day (5 day work week). It doesn't seem worthwhile given the basic AP does almost the same thing and I can't transfer this to a new vehicle. By the time I get a new car in 5yrs, the value add might change.
I've seen a blurb somewhere that the monthly FSD subscription will be $210 per month. Seems to make sense for someone doing a robotaxi but I can't see anyone going this route.
If robotaxi ever gets to reality, the price will be a lot more than $200 a month. If you see my old posts you can see some calculations.I've seen a blurb somewhere that the monthly FSD subscription will be $210 per month. Seems to make sense for someone doing a robotaxi but I can't see anyone going this route.
Then I'd say don't get it. Currently it is of minor use - when FSD beta is released, obviously the usefulness increases but you still need to monitor etc.Probably not.
The chances of a "robotaxi" are very, very small in the short to medium term. Only you can decide whether the price is good for your personal use of (beta) FSD that will be out sometime in the near future.2. For those of us with HW2.5 (and no interior camera) how would that impact our ability to add our cars to the Robotaxi fleet if we did upgrade to FSD? I feel like the interior camera will be pretty crucial for not only Gov approval of FSD but also the Robotaxi aspect.
question was two parts. How might the missing interior camera impact the gov approval of FSD? I'm hoping it won't matter at all... I do seem to remember something about once you pay for FSD, Tesla will upgrade your car as needed to get the FSD functionality promised. I would hope that would include upgrading cars to include the interior FSD camera if needed by the kleptocrats to officially approve FSD. To be honest I'm happy to not have a camera inside my car watching me, but the security/break-in implications are worth considering...The chances of a "robotaxi" are very, very small in the short to medium term. Only you can decide whether the price is good for your personal use of (beta) FSD that will be out sometime in the near future.
When the chances of robotaxi are so small ... rest of the things don't matter too much, IMO.I would hope that would include upgrading cars to include the interior FSD camera if needed by the kleptocrats to officially approve FSD. To be honest I'm happy to not have a camera inside my car watching me, but the security/break-in implications are worth considering...
while I agree with you on the chances of Robotaxi being small, I was shocked at how much further along FSD was when the beta dropped. It still has a long way to go but it was much further than I think most people expected (myself included).. so perhaps robotaxis are tooWhen the chances of robotaxi are so small ... rest of the things don't matter too much, IMO.
Last year when I got my TM3 I couldn't add FSD because that money went somewhere else. Right now I would get FSD but price went up from 6K to 10K. I wish FSD price would at least be locked in after you buy a car. Bummer....
This is most people. Just wait for the subscription service. It makes sense for it to be a reasonable price because it would be straight profit for tesla even on used vehicles. Plus in 4 years model 3.5 will be out with an updated body and twice the range and better radar. The subscription would just make more sense if you don't keep a car 10years. Some people do but in this case I don't think I will want to because who knows what's next. I am hopeful tesla comes out with a sports car under 100k. Pretty much just make the 3 look like a c8 or something sporty. It looks like a dadge dart right now. I have no need for baby space.
I am exaggerating but really we won't have the same car that tesla sells in a few years. I already don't have the same range and windows. Some people don't have the same he version.
my argument to buying it right now is I can't have it.I agree with this. My argument against buying FSD now is simple. By the time FSD is mature enough to be truly what it was meant to be, you might want a new car in which you will be paying yet again for FSD, at whatever increased price in the future. The notion of paying less for FSD now before price increases is kind of absurd considering the maturity. Does Tesla assume none of us would want to switch up ? It certainly does and expects us to pay for FSD again! Now, if it's assigned per lifetime of the user, that would make sense for the consumer. You carry the FSD software license with you from car to car. I would pay for it now and then I will be truly future proof.
Agreed. The new price is what the price sans discount should've been beforethat's just to level set the entire feature cost to 10k as supposed to 11k for EAP owners. nothing special and no discounts.