Goyogi, thank you so much for doing that. Now I know I'm going with the 21s.
What's your reason? I'm probably going with it more for the looks knowing the tire options are limited and ride isn't as nice.
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Goyogi, thank you so much for doing that. Now I know I'm going with the 21s.
What's your reason?.
wider = more tire on the road right?
Hmm... Confused again. I assumed a 'wider contact patch' would mean better traction / shorter breaking on a dry (I'm in San Diego after all) road. Sounds like you're saying it's the same amount of contact with the road though.
Probably the best, short explanation is from Paul Haney's book "Racing & High Performance Tire":
"For the same vertical load and internal pressure, a tire with a wider tread has a shorter, wider contact patch than a narrower tire. The area of both contact patches is the same if the internal pressure and the load are the same. . . A shorter contact patch at the same slip angle begins to slip at roughly the same distance from the leading edge as with a long contact patch. But the shorter contact patch has more of its length stuck to the road than the longer, narrower contact patch; and therefore a larger portion of its overall area is gripping." - Why Wider Tires Are Better, p. 101
Rim width is measured from inside to inside, not from the outside edges, so the actual rim widths are 8.5 and 9.0.
There is more on the physics in that thread too, especially the fist post. So this sounds like a benefit to me.
Incorrect. The amount of tire on the road is almost entirely determined by inflation pressure (There is a small amount that is determined by casing stiffness).
Wider tires mean a shorter wider contact patch. Narrower means a longer narrower one. Wider tires have more G-force at the expense of easier hydroplaning.
Based on the info we have, peak HP should be around 50-55mph in both flavors of Model S. Before that is constant torque, and after that is nearly-constant (drops by 15% or so) HP, until you're up above 110MPH and approaching the motor's top governed speed.I think that the most important factor to me would be mid-range acceleration, not just off the line speed from a dead stop. Of course, I am REALLY spoiled because my daily driver presently is a 1 series M Coupe. Most of us, probably like me, are not a teenager or early 20's person who wants to light up the rear tires from a stop light. If the performance model has seriously increased mid-range punch, that would be a no brainer.
Based on the info we have, peak HP should be around 50-55mph in both flavors of Model S. Before that is constant torque, and after that is nearly-constant (drops by 15% or so) HP, until you're up above 110MPH and approaching the motor's top governed speed.
For the Model S Performance, 40-60 should be <1.5 seconds; 60-80 in just over 2 seconds or so.
Midrange acceleration in either car should be fast, quiet, and smooooooth...
There used to be a picture of the Model S torque curve on the Tesla website that was later taken down.Does anyone know if Model S's motor's torque starts declining at the same RPM as Roadster's?
The widths of stock tires for 19" rims and 21" rims are going to be exactly the same, so the only factor for contact patch will be the inflation pressure.
None of this may matter, however, since tread width is separate from tire width and depends on the shape of the tread and shoulder.
Even though the 21" rims are 1/2 inch wider? How did you find out the tires will be the same width?