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Is it Conceivable to Go Back to ICE After Driving a Tesla?

Discussion in 'Model S' started by forumman83, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. neroden

    neroden Happy Model S Owner

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    #101 neroden, Jul 2, 2015
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    I can't even stand to rent an ICE car. I can't even stand to borrow someone else's ICE car. It's kind of embarassing.

    When I got back in an ICE (recently repaired from body damage) after driving the Tesla Model S for a few months, I said "Why is it shaking? Is there something wrong with it? We'll have to take it back to the repair shop!" My fiancee said, "Dear, I think it always did that."

    :wink:

    When other people offer to pick me up in their car, I offer to pick them up instead. Just so I don't have to get in an ICE car.

    I can just about tolerate getting into an ICE-powered taxi or limo. If I *must*.

    Really, it's that extreme. You will not want to go back to ICE cars.

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    It's better.

    ...OK, I'll unpack that a little. ICE cars shake violently all the time. They seem to want to move even when standing still. It's exhausting just being in them at all. They have sluggish acceleration. They have frighteningly sluggish deceleration, making me fear that the car won't stop when I take my foot off the gas. They have erratic response to the pedal, not linear response. The response is delayed, sluggish, non-responsive. They're loud. They stink to be around because of the fumes. They're unstable, with a poor center of gravity.

    And you have to go to these weird stinky shops and pump stinky, carcinogenic slime into them. Regularly! Even in the cold! Outdoors! And you have to pay for the privilege!

    And then there's all the crazy maintenance. "Oil changes", "timing belts", on and on and on. And the hood gets really hot.

    Oh, and the heat doesn't come on for like ten minutes after you start driving in the morning, so you're freezing the whole time.

    It's like going back from a sleek electric train to a steam locomotive. Except steam locomotives move more smoothly than ICE cars.

    Yes.

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    Great line. And I agree.
     
  2. forumman83

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    Awesome review and totally agree. Can't wait to get a Model 3
     
  3. Mr X

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    When you run out of electric range in the Volt and it switches to gas...


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  4. jvonbokel

    jvonbokel John VonBokel

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    Well put. It is kind of embarrassing. I got rear ended 6mo ago (on the interstate!) and I still haven't had it fixed in part because I don't want to have to drive an ICE for even a few days (also because it's minor enough that I barely notice it).
     
  5. GregHudson

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    That could easily be mistaken for the new Model S coupe.
    (Apart from those round tube things at the rear)... ;-)

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    These are the same reasons I am waiting for the M3X. Hopefully Elon & crew will realize they can sell more small SUV's than sedans, and produce the small SUV first.
     
  6. ahurst

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    I haven't read through this whole thread, but one of the reasons I won't buy an ICE again is I don't like the frustrations of dealing with car dealers... order online, wait for delivery...can't be easier.
     
  7. forumman83

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    I totally agree. I don't ever want to deal with a third party for the purchase of a vehicle again. Just doesn't make any sense. I love Apple's direct-to-consumer sales approach; cut the middleman, cut the Bullsh*t.
     
  8. neroden

    neroden Happy Model S Owner

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    Well, actually, this was a bit of a nightmare and very diffcult for me and a lot of other people, so um, no. Frankly, "check it out, buy it and drive it off the lot" IS easier. I did like getting exactly the options I wanted, though, so that's the upside of custom ordering.
     
  9. JMG

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    I feel like I can contribute to this thread. My MS was backed into 6 days after delivery. It took Tesla 3 weeks to get the parts to the body shop, and then it took the body shop 30 days to repair it. So, imagine getting your Tesla...driving it for a month, then back in a rental ICE (Maxima....:rolleyes:) for a month. It was painful....

    Also count me in I won't be getting another ICE.
     
  10. smac

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    It's not just easier, it's far less risky. My experience was to put down a deposit 14 months in advance, miss many, many deadlines. Finally when you get your car, weeks later they come significantly upgraded... To rub salt in the wounds you start getting threatening letters from the government repeatedly over incorrectly filed paperwork etc. etc.

    I agree the dealership model isn't perfect, but this has been my worse car buying experience in 20 years :(
     
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    Judging from what I read here on the forums every day, waiting for delivery doesn't seem to be very easy. :)
     
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    Brunton Pontificating the obvious

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    Until Tesla (or someone else) makes a full-sized electric pickup truck (not a hybrid), I'll have to go back to an ICE vehicle on occasion.
     
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    Would you pay 150k for one?
     
  15. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    I haven't needed a pickup truck in my entire driving career, so that's not an issue. No ICE cars at our house anymore. Going back is just not going to happen.
     
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    Btr_ftw Court Jester

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    This

    I have a 2 door ICE car and it may shake violently and make tons of noise, but good lord the beautiful sounds it makes while doing so!

    Perhaps I'm showing my age here but I also like having a car that accelerates hard above 100mph (on a track of course!)


    This

    I actually haul stuff (rocks, bags of sand, lumber, dirt) it may be outdated, but a pickup truck has its utility

    This

    For me, the Tesla its not exactly a road trip car (it is, but its not) If I take into account for stopping at supercharger stations just to keep the car going, I'd have to take additional time off work!


    Ideally I would need 3 cars (no one car can fit all of my needs)

    One to haul stuff
    Very fast 2 door
    Daily car
     
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    Is there a documented case, and maybe study, of someone willingly going back to ICE full time after owning/leasing a Model S?
     
  18. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    I don't know of any studies, but there have been a handful TMC members who have gone back (or at least said they did) for one reason or another. The majority of them were because of either lifestyle or service issues.
     
  19. GoBlue88

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    I wouldn't say that - in a decade or so maybe induction charging will be good enough to eliminate plugs! :biggrin:
     
  20. S'toon

    S'toon Knows where his towel is

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    I don't understand this "I love the sound of an ICE engine" thing. That's one of the LEAST favourite features of an ICE engine in my books.
     

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