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That would be illegal because you did not buy ANY Windows 7 version - you only bought a LICENSE to use Windows 7 Home Edition. You're not an owner - you are licensee. Tesla - you own (if you purchased it, obviously)What about when you buy Windows 7 Home edition, but because you're a super leet haxor, you have the ability to unlock it to make it Windows 7 Black Edition and get all the extra features?
That would be illegal because you did not buy ANY Windows 7 version - you only bought a LICENSE to use Windows 7 Home Edition. You're not an owner - you are licensee. Tesla - you own (if you purchased it, obviously)
Just because Tesla does something wrong doesn't make it morally right for you to steal from them.As for "morals and ethics" .. Explain why it's ok for Tesla to short change a customer by 8kWh that the customer actually paid for, but it's not ok for a customer to use 100% of what was delivered to them?
If I break in to a Tesla store and take an item, you can call it stealing. Until then you better come up with a different crime to accuse me of. Because per the legal definition, no theft occurs.Just because Tesla does something wrong doesn't make it morally right for you to steal from them.
And that's my problem how? If they want to change their business model to be more prudent, that's up to them, it doesn't affect me any.
I never said anything about legally. I'm talking about morally. Morally if you can't see that buying a 60 with the intent to upgrade it to a 75 yourself for free is stealing, then I feel quite sorry for you.If I break in to a Tesla store and take an item, you can call it stealing. Until then you better come up with a different crime to accuse me of. Because per the legal definition, no theft occurs.
You'd think all these people who are so concerned with my breaking the law wouldn't be so quick to risk breaking it themselves through libel...
This discussion went as far as it could go more than 5 pages ago.I think this is kind of the crux of this discussion. It doesn't affect you. It does harm others who would purchase cars in the future and would have fewer options available. If you have no problem harming others in that way, in order to get additional features you weren't willing to pay for, then this discussion has probably gone about as far as it can go.
If I break in to a Tesla store and take an item, you can call it stealing. Until then you better come up with a different crime to accuse me of. Because per the legal definition, no theft occurs.
You'd think all these people who are so concerned with my breaking the law wouldn't be so quick to risk breaking it themselves through libel...
And I feel quite sorry for anyone who thinks, as you do, that they do not own any item ever. Corporations own the very clothes on their backs and can set any terms they like, regardless of legallity.I never said anything about legally. I'm talking about morally. Morally if you can't see that buying a 60 with the intent to upgrade it to a 75 yourself for free is stealing, then I feel quite sorry for you.
read the other 168 comments in this thread then. It's the "morally superior" people who are accusing everyone else of crimes they didn't commit.I'd note here that the comment you're replying to falls far short of libel. They didn't actually accuse you of anything. They merely stated that Tesla doing something wrong doesn't make it morally right for you to steal from them. That's a factual statement about a hypothetical, not an false accusation.
What do you care what other people think? Why do you need to prove them that you're right, who cares what anyone thinks?read the other 168 comments in this thread then. It's the "morally superior" people who are accusing everyone else of crimes they didn't commit.
I should also note that hypotheticals can still be considered libel if it's shown that they are using hypotheticals simply to avoid the actual claim.
somehow the "against" side don't seem to have an issue with Tesla shortchanging me by more than half the amount being discussed here
The Tesla website as well as the purchase agreements (and just about everything) have went through a lot of iterations. I do believe on the website at some point it did list it as "kwh", and not just the number. I'm not sure of the purchase agreement green1 holds.This may be slightly off topic, but I'm actually kind of curious on this. I bought a 60 and don't recall seeing anywhere a specification that stated that that number indicated the exact battery capacity in kWh. Is there such a specification anywhere in the purchase agreement?
And I paid for a 1060sqft house, not 1069sqft
Tesla is specifically telling you the 15kw is NOT included in the price
Ok, we'll go over this one more time... List a law that they would sue under. We've been over this a thousand times already. You state it's illegal, but you keep failing to list a law.
I KNOW! It's ridiculous and laughable to read replies in which they pull "facts" out of their a$$3s, imagine stuff, and plain make $h1t up as they go - "yeah, it will void your warranty", "ohh, Tesla will blacklist your VIN from superchargers", "mmm, modifying your car is illegal", "Tesla will sue you", "aahh, Tesla will stop providing you updates", and then the best ones - "mark my word" and "I guarantee it"
The Tesla website as well as the purchase agreements (and just about everything) have went through a lot of iterations. I do believe on the website at some point it did list it as "kwh", and not just the number. I'm not sure of the purchase agreement green1 holds.
ETA: Just looked on my Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement, the first line says "70 kWh Model S". so yes, it is in the purchase agreement. At least when I bought it almost 2 years ago.
But it's not in the "Model S Order Agreement". That just lists 70D as the model.