Is it possible to leave FSD beta and return?

pan · Jul 6, 2022

I’ve been on FSD beta for over six months. Although I’m happy with the beta, the pace of new updates is slow. Lately, new non-beta software updates include new features I’d like to try. If I canceled the FSD beta, could I rejoin the beta program easily?

JulienW · Jul 6, 2022

It is or more correctly MAY be possible but.........had you done this in Jan and decided to get back in you would have possibly just got back in 6 months later (or still waiting). So it is a crap shoot and totally unknowable as to what next month and beyond brings so be prepared for a LOOOOONG wait so you won't be disappointed.

Yelobird · Jul 6, 2022

Not sure what New non beta features your missing but it is voluntary as they say so go for it. Just know that you would have to start over again including “testing” to return. No feature is worth that fun lol.

jakimo · Jul 6, 2022

pan said:
could I rejoin the beta program easily

Yep, once you're in and in the beta update stream.. you're in. I go in and out of subscription without a problem

newberry94005 · Jul 6, 2022

jakimo said:
Yep, once you're in and in the beta update stream.. you're in. I go in and out of subscription without a problem

Are you talking just FSD subscription or you are able to join and unjoin the BETA?

pan · Jul 6, 2022

@newberry94005 If you ask me the question, let me add more information. I paid for full FSD with the purchase of the car. I'm only interested in leaving and returning to the Beta program.

I've been impressed with the improved ability of FSD. However, with updates of roughly once a month, a beta member doesn't see the more frequent improvements of the general non-beta software, such as pot-hole detection.

JulienW · Jul 7, 2022

pan said:
@newberry94005 If you ask me the question, let me add more information. I paid for full FSD with the purchase of the car. I'm only interested in leaving and returning to the Beta program.

I've been impressed with the improved ability of FSD. However, with updates of roughly once a month, a beta member doesn't see the more frequent improvements of the general non-beta software, such as pot-hole detection.

See my post (#2), @jakimo is not understanding your question and his (going by avatar) answer is unrelated to what you want. If you asked to be removed from the Beta program and get back on regular software you are taking a HUGE chance about the ability or timing to get back into the Beta program. You are 100% completely out of Beta and must start over with Safety Score and waiting as any other "new" Beta tester wannabe.

[confusion] In @jakimo case he is in the Beta program and has a subscription. He is just not renewing his subscription but still staying on the Beta software version. When he renews this just turns Beta back on. In effect it would be the same as you going into the menu and switching Beta off for a month and then switching it back on next month.

jakimo · Jul 7, 2022

JulienW said:
If you asked to be removed from the Beta program and get back on regular software you are taking a HUGE chance about the ability or timing to get back into the Beta program. You are 100% completely out of Beta and must start over with Safety Score and waiting as any other "new" Beta tester wannabe.

This. (My apologies for not catching the real question earlier.)

I'm curious, what new features are missing?

Dewg · Jul 7, 2022

jakimo said:
This. (My apologies for not catching the real question earlier.)

I'm curious, what new features are missing?

There are a few changes with the non FSD-Beta builds. You can review the change logs here:

2022.20 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2022.20 includes Car Colorizer, Polish Voice Navigation, Turkish Voice Navigation, Cabin Camera, Cabin Camera, Speed Assist, Online Radio, Sentry Mode, Seat Belt System Enhancement, Tesla Adaptive Suspension, HomeLink Buttons, Battery at Arrival, Green Traffic Light Chime...

www.notateslaapp.com

2022.20.5 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2022.20.5 includes Tire Configuration, Car Colorizer, Polish Voice Navigation, Turkish Voice Navigation, Cabin Camera, Cabin Camera, Speed Assist, Online Radio, Sentry Mode, Seat Belt System Enhancement, Tesla Adaptive Suspension, HomeLink Buttons, Green Traffic Light...

www.notateslaapp.com

Yelobird · Jul 7, 2022

Dewg said:
There are a few changes with the non FSD-Beta builds. You can review the change logs here:

2022.20 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2022.20 includes Car Colorizer, Polish Voice Navigation, Turkish Voice Navigation, Cabin Camera, Cabin Camera, Speed Assist, Online Radio, Sentry Mode, Seat Belt System Enhancement, Tesla Adaptive Suspension, HomeLink Buttons, Battery at Arrival, Green Traffic Light Chime...

www.notateslaapp.com

2022.20.5 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2022.20.5 includes Tire Configuration, Car Colorizer, Polish Voice Navigation, Turkish Voice Navigation, Cabin Camera, Cabin Camera, Speed Assist, Online Radio, Sentry Mode, Seat Belt System Enhancement, Tesla Adaptive Suspension, HomeLink Buttons, Green Traffic Light...

www.notateslaapp.com

As these noted items are already on the FSDb the OP wants to leave what again are they missing by staying in the FSD?

Goose66 · Jul 8, 2022

I need my dashcam/sentry mode writing to my USB working again!

Dewg · Jul 8, 2022

Goose66 said:
I need my dashcam/sentry mode writing to my USB working again!

Have you tried testing the USB stick in a PC? Then reformat it back in the Tesla. If it still fails, open a service ticket.

Goose66 · Jul 8, 2022

Dewg said:
Have you tried testing the USB stick in a PC? Then reformat it back in the Tesla. If it still fails, open a service ticket.

Yep. Done all those things. Tesla says problem fixed in future firmware update and cancelled my ticket. Researching on internet suggests fix may be in 2022.16.X branch.

Dewg · Jul 8, 2022

Goose66 said:
Yep. Done all those things. Tesla says problem fixed in future firmware update and cancelled my ticket. Researching on internet suggests fix may be in 2022.16.X branch.

When you format in the car does it say successful?

Goose66 · Jul 8, 2022

No - says error formatting.

jebinc · Jul 8, 2022

pan said:
@newberry94005 If you ask me the question, let me add more information. I paid for full FSD with the purchase of the car. I'm only interested in leaving and returning to the Beta program.

I've been impressed with the improved ability of FSD. However, with updates of roughly once a month, a beta member doesn't see the more frequent improvements of the general non-beta software, such as pot-hole detection.

I left beta last fall, been waiting to get reenrolled for nearly six months, so I would say “no,” counter to popular belief. Oh, and my current safety score is 99. Maybe not getting back in IS a blessing in disguise!

Dewg · Jul 8, 2022

Goose66 said:
No - says error formatting.

I hope the next update fixes it. Feels like a USB port problem or wiring harness problem.

StephanB · Aug 4, 2022

Dewg said:
I hope the next update fixes it. Feels like a USB port problem or wiring harness problem.

It's an operating system issue. The drive doesn't get mounted properly, which causes failures for reads and writes. I'm struggling with this almost daily as well. The easiest thing to do is to unplug and reinsert your drive after a second. Dash and Sentry will become available again.
I don't have to do it every day, but it is the fix for seeing the X on the cam button.

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