Is it still possible to get a 3-phase 16A UMC charger in Europe?

[Tozz]

Many of you pointed out that the Juice Booster 2 is the best (non-Tesla) option for 3-phase charging, albeit at a high price. But caution is advised: one of the reviews (sorry I cannot find it again) reported that this product would give an error message if used in conjunction with Tesla delayed charging features, and thus the user recommended it only if you plan to charge immediately. I would be happy if some of you could relate your experiences.

I call bullshit on this. I have a JB2 and it's just like any other EVSE (but better) and delayed charging or scheduled charging works fine with the JB2.
I've actually never seen an error on the JB2 due to something from the car. Only errors/warnings I've seen were legitimate fault codes for incompatible grids (missing neutral, missing earth)

 

[nunozorrinho]

Hi everyone.
I have installed in my garage a 400v 32amp e 3phase CEE plug (red 5-pin), for which Tesla does not provide adapters.
I understand that, ideally, I should have the wall charger, but prices for installing them are incredibly high where I live.

Do you have any setup like the one I have at my place? Can the portable adapters that I see online (not sure if I can post links here) be a good fit to use that CEE plug?

Thank you very much for any comment.

 

[Rocky_H]

Apparently the new Tesla mobile connector cord doesn't do 3 phase like the older 1st generation cable used to. There was an adapter for that one:

https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/installation_guide_umc_red_eu.pdf

But here's the existing thread about using the red plug. A lot of people are using a 3rd party product called Juice Booster, which can use that red plug very well and has a lot of types of adapters.

Is it still possible to get a 3-phase 16A UMC charger in Europe?

Is it still possible to buy a UMC or an adapter for the one included with the car that will charge in a 3-phase industrial red plug? I charge in some places where a 32A circuit is not feasible. But those places do have 3-phase power and it would be nice to be able to charge a Model 3 at full...

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Probably should just merge this into that existing thread.

I checked EVSEAdapters' international adapter section, and they have some for the blue commando, but not the red one.

International EV Adapters – EVSE Adapters

www.evseadapters.com

 

[Candleflame]

you can buy a gen1 umc and gen 1 adapter from aliexpress

 

[vectorflux]

Update: I've patiently waited for the Tesla-branded 3-phase 11kW CEE16 mobile connector, e.g.,

Corded Mobile Connector

Use the Corded Mobile Connector as an alternative for charging at home and work. This charger is suited for three-phase charging through a higher power red socket. Features Max charge rate: 11 kW Range per hour: 65 km with Model 3 51 km with Model S...

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Kabelgebundener Mobile Connector

Verwenden Sie den kabelgebundenen Mobile Connector als Alternative zum Laden zu Hause und am Arbeitsplatz. Dieses Ladegerät ist für das Laden über eine rote, 3-phasige Steckdose mit höherer Leistung geeignet. FeaturesMax. Laderate: 11 kWReichweite pro Stunde: 65 km bei Model 3...

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All versions (also in the USA) are still out of stock, and I'm starting to suspect that Tesla will simply discontinue this line. Thanks for all the suggestions, particular from Tozz who debunked the review of the JB2. I'm planning to order the following and hope it works with delayed charging:

ICCB 11-8-CEE16 - DUOSIDA, Ladegerät, 11 kW, 8 m, Typ2, CEE16

Typ 2 EVSE Ladestation/ Ladekabel, 11 kW, 16 A, 8 m (CEE16-Anschluss)Perfektes Ladegerät für Zuhause, unterwegs oder die Arbeit! Die ICCB Ladegeräte verfügen über lange Ladekabel 5 m/ 8 m um Ihr [...]

www.reichelt.com

 

[Tozz]

Update: I've patiently waited for the Tesla-branded 3-phase 11kW CEE16 mobile connector, e.g.,

Corded Mobile Connector

Use the Corded Mobile Connector as an alternative for charging at home and work. This charger is suited for three-phase charging through a higher power red socket. Features Max charge rate: 11 kW Range per hour: 65 km with Model 3 51 km with Model S...

shop.tesla.com

Kabelgebundener Mobile Connector

Verwenden Sie den kabelgebundenen Mobile Connector als Alternative zum Laden zu Hause und am Arbeitsplatz. Dieses Ladegerät ist für das Laden über eine rote, 3-phasige Steckdose mit höherer Leistung geeignet. FeaturesMax. Laderate: 11 kWReichweite pro Stunde: 65 km bei Model 3...

shop.tesla.com

All versions (also in the USA) are still out of stock, and I'm starting to suspect that Tesla will simply discontinue this line. Thanks for all the suggestions, particular from Tozz who debunked the review of the JB2. I'm planning to order the following and hope it works with delayed charging:

ICCB 11-8-CEE16 - DUOSIDA, Ladegerät, 11 kW, 8 m, Typ2, CEE16

Typ 2 EVSE Ladestation/ Ladekabel, 11 kW, 16 A, 8 m (CEE16-Anschluss)Perfektes Ladegerät für Zuhause, unterwegs oder die Arbeit! Die ICCB Ladegeräte verfügen über lange Ladekabel 5 m/ 8 m um Ihr [...]

www.reichelt.com

Had a short holiday this week in Belgium, and used the JB2 again without issues.
Was a reminder again that Belgium has a weird power grid without neutral (split phase). JB2 threw a warning LED that it was missing a neutral, but charging worked fine!

 

[Stuart Watson]

Well, if you could find a V1 UMC then it would do what you want; however, the V2 UMC is apparently single-phase only.

It appears that Tesla are now supplying the V2 UMC with all new cars (both Model S/X and Model 3), so the V1 is probably out of production. Possibly you might find one in old stock at a service centre. They also appear regularly on eBay.

But what you need isn't Tesla-specific, there are third-party alternatives that do the same job, such as:

JUICE TECHNOLOGY | JUICE BOOSTER
EVR3 - Type 2 - max 22 kW [Portable charging station] - e-Station Store

Thanks for posting !

I also need one of these, but at that price I’m better off just using a chargeable supercharger!