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Is the M3P Really 1" Lower than the M3?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by gizmoboy, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. gizmoboy

    gizmoboy Member

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    I've seen some speculation on the board based on renders that the Performance trim is lower to the ground than the stock 3.

    We have a stock 3, and it works fine in our driveway, but my S (no air suspension) scrapes, and I was considering upgrading to a 3P based on the tax break and unlimited supercharging w/referral, but I'm concerned about a lower bottom.

    I should have taken a tap measure to my. test drive, but didn't discover this until after the drive.

    Can anyone confirm it's lower, and by how much?
     
  2. ba2002

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    I had read it was 1cm/.4 inches lower, but I don't pick up my p3d- for a couple weeks. Hopefully someone will chime in.
     
  3. KenF

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    Only the performance version (also known as the P3D+) with the $5,000 performance package (20” wheels, better brakes, spoiler, etc.) is 1cm lower.
     
  4. S4WRXTTCS

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    It is indeed slightly lower, but I think it's less than 1inch. The P3D+ version with the performance package that is.

    But, your car is also slightly lower when you put people into it. I took my mom, and my nephew out to eat one day and I scrapped where I didn't normally scrape. This was with a Model S with the coil suspension. I didn't get the air suspension because it's more complicated, and didn't really match the kind of connection I want a car to have with the road.
     
  5. outie

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    Are you able to flatten it? I have a neighbor who did this after getting a M5.
     
  6. ba2002

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    Do you have a P3D- to confirm it's not lower? The only report I've seen on these forums from a P3D- owner said his is slightly lower than a RWD.
     
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    Keep in mind one of the reasons for the scraping is the large overhangs on the front/rear for the S. Our S (with Air) has to be in high position not to scrape on our driveway. Our 3 gets in and out fine, mostly due to the fact that the front doesn't stick so far out from the wheels as on the S. You may find a similar thing with the 3P.
     
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  8. juanmedina

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    I wonder if the extra weight of the front motor makes it look like is a little bit lowered
     
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  9. Jedi2155

    Jedi2155 Model 3 has Arrived.

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    Only the P3D with the "+" or Performance Upgrade Package includes the lowered suspension. The standard P3D- does not.

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  10. Xenoilphobe

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    0.393701 of inch lower
     
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  11. bradhs

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    I have a P3D+ and can measure from floor to _____ if someone wants. Just make the request. :)
     
  12. ba2002

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    #12 ba2002, Sep 2, 2018
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    I'm just saying it's not unheard of for Tesla marketing to publish inaccurate information and I would hate for someone to buy the p3- expecting it to work only to find out it is different than a rwd for whatever reason, especially when one member has reported his p3d- as .4 inches lower than an awd.
     
  13. bradhs

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    P3D+
    Front: 28 1/8”
    Rear: 28”
     
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    I believe the specs, but in reality the difference is nearly imperceptible. Compared to a couple of RWD 3s that I parked next to, the front of mine looks slightly lower, but the back looks the same.
     
  15. bradhs

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    What's odd is my rear is 1/8" lower than the front and that's with no one in the car. I wonder if they accidentally put P3D- in the front and P3D+ in the rear.
     
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    Can I get someone else to measure front and back to the top of the fender that has a non performance+?

    P3D+
    Front: 28 1/8”
    Rear: 28”
     
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    Similar thread here: Suspension Height - P3D vs. P3D+ vs. RWD

    OP in that thread seems to have a P3D-. Haven't seen non-P3D measurements though...
     
  19. JulienW

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    Really I read it was 10mm or was it 1/100 of a meter:eek:, well really.:p:D:D:D [/sarcasm]. Oh why didn't we make a full switch over to metric in the 70's and 80's. It is so much more straight forward and easy to understand/visualize than things like ⅞" or 1' 3¾ ". Is it 5286' or 1762 yards or 1 mile 6' or 1 mile 2 yards or 1 mile 64" or....? So obtuse and counterproductive.

    Back on topic: Wonder how much lower the air suspension will go? IMO 10mm was visually not enough and it still has too much gape. Should have been at least 20mm to 25mm.
     
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  20. SJC3

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    It looks no where as low as the website. That is unfortunately common with most manufactures websites. the gap looks bigger due to the more narrow sidewalls. Kinda odd.
     

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